Summary
● Four days ago, I reposted a long essay arguing that dinosaurs are a fabrication meant to prop up evolution and the “fossil fuel” story. I am withdrawing it.
● I checked the essay’s specific claims against the record, one by one. Most are false. Several describe real events, but with the facts reversed.
● The piece hooked me because of my interest in the abiotic theory of oil. That interest is legitimate. The essay abused it.
● I separate what survives, including abiotic oil as a live minority question, from what collapsed, which is nearly everything the essay offered as evidence.
● The lesson is old, and it stings. A claim that flatters your priors draws more scrutiny, not less.
What I posted
On July 16, I reposted an essay from the Unbekoming Substack that centers on the idea that dinosaurs are a fake psyop. I wrapped it in my own comment. I told you it shook my cause-and-effect view of evolution and pushed me toward a short time course and creationism. I stand by almost none of that now.
The essay appealed to me for one reason. I have written about the abiotic theory of oil, the idea that petroleum forms deep in the earth through geological processes rather than from buried organisms. I find that theory worth taking seriously. The dinosaur essay leaned on it heavily. When a new piece confirms something you already suspect, your guard drops. Mine dropped.
After I posted it, I did what I should have done first. I checked the load-bearing claims. Here is what came back.
The fossil record is not thin
The essay’s opening move is to tell you that the bones barely exist. The opposite is true. Paleontologists have named about 700 species, grouped into roughly 300 valid genera, and estimate that 700 to 900 more genera still lie in the ground. Over 2 centuries, nearly 11,000 dinosaur fossils have been dug up worldwide. A new species is named about every 2 weeks.
The claim that we never find complete skeletons is also false. Sue, the Tyrannosaurus, is over 90 percent complete. Scelidosaurus, discovered in a Dorset cliff in 1858, was the first complete dinosaur skeleton ever identified. In 2006, a joint Japanese and Mongolian team recovered a Tarbosaurus missing only some neck bones and the tip of its tail. Composite mounts and incomplete specimens are common, and honest paleontologists say so out loud. A wholesale absence of bone is a fiction.
The casts are not a secret
The essay makes a meal of the fact that museum mounts are often replicas. They are, and museums say so on their own websites. The Field Museum in Chicago explains that it displays both real fossils and casts because the real ones are heavy, fragile, valuable, and sometimes legally bound to remain in their country of origin. The Smithsonian says the same in its published material. Casts are molded directly from genuine fossils and built from plaster, resin, or fiberglass. Turning that disclosed practice into “chicken bones and glue” is stagecraft.
The Texas footprints, pointed the wrong way
The essay claims the famous Texas dinosaur tracks were confessed fakes. This inverts the story. The tracks in question are the Glen Rose prints along the Paluxy River. The dinosaur tracks there are genuine. What was faked were supposed human footprints beside them. The people who promoted those human prints as proof were creationists hoping to show that men walked with dinosaurs. Some prints were carved during the Depression and sold to tourists. Others turned out to be eroded or elongated dinosaur tracks. The claim fell apart so completely that the Institute for Creation Research itself, in 1984, withdrew it and conceded that the human reading had been an error. The essay took a hoax that fooled young-earth creationists and reassigned it to the dinosaurs.
Archaeoraptor, caught by the scientists
The essay describes a researcher who gained access to “authentic” fossils, scanned them, found they were assembled from small-animal bones, metal, and glue, and then claims National Geographic printed the story as real anyway. This garbles the 1999 Archaeoraptor affair. A specimen smuggled out of China’s Liaoning beds was a chimera, with its front and tail glued from different animals. National Geographic promoted it before proper review, a genuine editorial failure. Paleontologists, led by Xu Xing, then exposed the forgery. The tail turned out to belong to a real new dinosaur, later named Microraptor. Science caught the fake and fixed the record. The essay rewrites a self-correction as a cover-up.
The Gould quote
The essay quotes Stephen Jay Gould calling the rarity of transitional forms “the trade secret of paleontology.” The quote is real. Its use is not. Gould wrote that line to argue for punctuated equilibrium, his idea that species change rapidly in small populations and so leave few intermediate fossils. He was one of the fiercest opponents of creationism in his lifetime, and he complained in print that creationists lifted his words while dropping his meaning. Transitional series exist and are well documented: the whale sequence from land mammal to sea, Tiktaalik, Archaeopteryx, the mammal-like reptiles, the hominins. Quoting a man against the position he spent his life defending is a cheap trick, and I fell for it.
Carbon 14 in coal, the paragraph that got me
Here is the paragraph I singled out, the one I said shook me. It claimed that coal and oil, supposedly millions of years old, yield radiocarbon dates of only thousands of years, and that recent volcanic rock dates to millions of years. I reprinted it in bold. It falls apart on inspection, and the reason is worth spelling out because this is exactly where I stumbled.
Radiocarbon has a half-life of about 5,730 years. Beyond about 50,000 years, there is almost nothing left to measure. Using it on million-year-old coal is like weighing a freight train on a kitchen scale, then treating the wobble in the needle as data. When labs detect a trace of carbon 14 in old coal, the amount hovers near the machine’s background floor and comes from three known sources. Contamination during handling. A constant cosmic-ray background that salts every sample on earth. And fresh carbon 14 made in place, when uranium and thorium in the surrounding rock convert nitrogen 14 into it. Here is the part that undoes the young-earth reading entirely. Those trace levels point to ages north of 30,000 years, not the 4,000 to 6,000 the flood model needs. That number refutes the argument it is offered to support.
The volcanic-rock complaint is the same error, mirrored. Fresh lava sometimes retains old argon inherited from the mantle, which can push a potassium-argon date far too high. Geologists know this effect by name, test for it, and discard the bad results. The essay presents an artifact-controlled result as a smoking gun. Deep time is dated by uranium-lead, argon-argon, and other clocks that cross-check one another. It does not rest on the one clock built for the last 50,000 years, which is the only clock the essay discusses.
The 1892 convention that never met
The essay, following Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty, claims the term “fossil fuel” was fixed at an 1892 Geneva Convention, where Rockefeller’s paid scientists pushed a false organic origin to manufacture scarcity. No such convention met. The phrase “fossil fuel” appears in print in 1759, decades before Rockefeller drew breath. There was an 1892 chemistry meeting in Geneva, the Geneva Nomenclature Congress, and its business was naming organic compounds, not classifying petroleum or setting its price. Prouty’s companion line, that no real fossil turns up below 16,000 feet, is wrong too. Fossils have been found deeper. This one stings because it lives inside the oil literature I lean on.
And here is what I missed. No geologist claims oil comes from dinosaurs. “Fossil fuel” refers to prehistoric marine plankton, algae, and plant matter, cooked under heat and pressure, not to Tyrannosaurus. The dinosaur-into-gasoline image is a Sinclair Oil cartoon, the green Brontosaurus on the sign. The essay’s entire architecture rests on the sentence “remove dinosaurs, and the fossil in fossil fuel loses its anchor.” That anchor was always a mascot. Remove the mascot, and the geology does not move an inch. Whether oil is biogenic or abiogenic is a separate, live question, and it does not need a single dinosaur to be resolved either way.
Cope and the oatmeal
A smaller tell I should have caught. The essay states as fact that Edward Drinker Cope was heir to the Quaker Oats fortune, the company later tied to radiation experiments on children. Cope came from a wealthy Philadelphia Quaker family, whose money came from shipping and trade. He died nearly broke after bad silver-mining bets and sold off his fossil collection to survive. Quaker Oats, the cereal company, has no tie to him or to the Society of Friends. It borrowed the Quaker image as a trademark and nothing more. The original author even winks at the move, calling Cope part of the “rich Quaker (oatmeal) family.” A pun got dressed up as a bloodline, and it sailed straight into my repost.
The source
Which brings me to the author. The dinosaur series comes from a writer posting as agent131711 on a Substack titled chemtrails. The same handle argues that NASA never reached space and that the moon landings were staged. A long, detailed rebuttal from another writer went through the series and found it wrong at nearly every technical point. The sharpest warning came from one of you. In my own comments, a reader told me he had followed agent131711 and then stopped because the author backs his claims with few or no links. He was right. I should have weighed that comment before I hit repost, not after.
What I keep
Withdrawing this essay does not remove my skepticism, nor does it address the abiotic oil question. That theory has serious names behind it. Thomas Gold set it out in The Deep Hot Biosphere. Russian and Ukrainian geologists built an entire school around deep, non-biological hydrocarbons. Kenney and colleagues published a hydrocarbon-genesis paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences in 2002. Mainstream geochemistry rejects the theory and bases its case on biomarkers and carbon-isotope ratios. A 2006 review in Resource Geology called the abiotic models invalid, but mainstream science is like fish swimming back and forth together, each following the other.
The Bone Wars were real, and they were filthy. Cope and Marsh spied on each other, bribed each other’s crews, and smashed fossils to keep rivals from counting them. Some species were named twice, some were named from scraps, and the field spent decades cleaning up the mess. Skepticism about that century of rushed naming is warranted. It does not follow that the animals are invented.
The Cambrian explosion is a real puzzle, and thoughtful people debate what it means. None of that hands you a fake dinosaur.
Synthesis
I write about a world thick with engineered lies. I believe that world exists. The discipline that belief demands is the one I skipped. If those in power lie to serve their interests, so do the people selling you the counter-story, and the second group flatters you while it does so. A claim that confirms what you already hold is the one to slow down on, not the one to wave through. I waved it through.
There is a cheaper way to be wrong and a dearer way to be right. The cheaper way is to trust any source that names your enemies. The dearer way is to scrutinize the source that names your enemies more than the one that does not, because that is the source that has already lowered your guard. I owe you the dearer way. Some of you pay for it. All of you spend your attention on it.
I closed the repost with Hamlet, “more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy.” The irony is that the essay was the narrowing, not the widening. It reduced a strange, deep, well-evidenced past to a flat little conspiracy. Real dinosaurs are stranger than any psyop about them.
The repost is withdrawn. The bones are real. The tracks are real. The animals lived. I was taken in by a piece that used a theory I like as bait, and I passed that bait to you. Correcting it in full, in daylight, is the only version of this work I want to keep doing. Mea culpa. When you copy someone else’s homework without checking, you risk getting results like this.
I recommend that you read my abiotic oil post. I stand by it in full.
Selected references
● How many types of dinosaurs are known, U.S. Geological Survey.
● Dinosaur discoveries are booming, Scientific American, 2024.
● Which dinosaur bones are real, Field Museum.
● FossiLab, on casts and real fossils, Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History.
● Two centuries of dinosaur discoveries, Natural History Museum, London.
● The Paluxy dinosaur and “man track” controversy, TalkOrigins Archive.
● A summary of the Taylor site evidence, National Center for Science Education.
● Paluxy River, the tale of the trails, Institute for Creation Research, its own withdrawal of the man-track claim.
● Dinosaur age meets the space age at NASA Goddard, NASA.
● Oil was not named a fossil fuel at an 1892 Geneva Convention, Full Fact.
● Answers to creationist attacks on carbon-14 dating, National Center for Science Education.
● Does radiocarbon dating prove a young earth, Reasons to Believe.
● Experts on the abiotic-oil dinosaur claim, citing the 2006 Resource Geology review.
● Edward Drinker Cope, biography.
● The original series, agent131711.
Respect.. It takes courage to admit we were wrong.. thanks for showing what that looks like!
Not to worry – nobody really knows anything, anyway.
That is the truth. Unlearning the garbage we thought we knew is the way.
The notion that dinosaurs didn’t exist was a bridge too far for me
Thank you for retracting. I was waiting for “a spherical earth is a psyop” and “the mRNA shots are safe and effective” narratives next.
The earth is flat, viruses don’t exist, dinosaurs are a psyop, and the check is in the mail.
Tell a lie …long enough or short enough…Adam & Eve in a short time believed it….hooked, lined and sunk us!
The observable evidence is against a spinning ball flying through space at 2.2 million mph, as science claims.
I guess that would depend on what you call observable evidence.
Have you put your retraction on the Unbekoming comments section with all these reasons?
Unbekoming does not care. He just cranks them out, leaving the sifting to the readers.
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man, “cranks ’em out” really says it.
Too damn much to read every day!
TBF the AI does the cranking.
I fancy him as a rich old guy who has got a small stable of researchers, and then feeds their work into an AI. 🙂
I am a supporting subscriber to Unbekoming and for some time now I have been noticing the information overload coming from that account. It is too much to keep up with and I am skipping most of it now. Probably will not be resubscribing.
Yes, and the quality suffers.
Arrival at Truth always requires the rejection of falsehoods uD83DuDC4D
Dragons
If only others in the medical field and elsewhere were willing and brave enough to admit when they were wrong or mislead the world would be a better place.
Agreed. So my extra Thanks to Dr. Yoho for your continued honesty in a sea that is anything but honesty. uD83DuDC4DuD83CuDFFB
Thank you for your integrity!
I am a subscriber to the Agent because he writes on a variety of topics that interest me. Unfortunately, some of his research deserves close scrutiny and further investigation u2013 the ‘dinosaur hoax’ being one.
Take care, thank you and wishing you well.
The “agent” is directly linked to “Medicine girl” who is a phony debunker and click baiter.
Cheers!
At least you can believe in dinosaurs again, Dr. Yoho!
Doesnu2019t matter. Itu2019s all a lie. Weu2019ve been lied to all our lives.
Lucky meu2014thatu2019s what I thought. If you really believe that, I have to wonder if your other articles are accurate. It suddenly reminded me of Mercola. Luckily, youu2019re back on track. Thanks.
Whew. Thank you for the retraction, Robert.
I live on a small outcropping of the Dakota Formation, which was once an ancient beach. Nearby, thanks to the upthrust of the Redlands Fault, sits a more ancient outcropping of Morrison Formation–ancient stream beds where Paleontologists have often found dinosaur fossils. On a hill, named after Paleontologist Elmer Riggs, the first known skeleton of the giant sauropod dinosaur Brachiosaurus altithorax was found by Dr Riggs and his assistant H. William Menke on July 4, 1900. They worked in the 100F heat to move the bones across river by barge and take it for study and display at the Field Museum. He later discovered Apatosaurus bones a few miles away, once again in the Morrison Formation near the town of Fruita.
Dr Riggs was interested in ancient life. He was not part of a conspiracy, a misinformation campaign or an attack on religion. He worked under brutal conditions to uncover that ancient life and bring it to be seen by new generations. I consider Riggs a hero, not a villain.
Being wrong about some some things is unavoidable. Self-correction should not be. Thanks for your honesty and having the character to admit this to your audience.
I was surprised they claimed no one has ever found real dinosaur bones. Chinese medicine has been using ground dinosaur bones as herbs for ever, and there are tons of people who regularly livestream finding dinosaur fossils on their property. A lot of the overly skeptical people assume any theory which relies upon inferences has to be a hoax (e.g., viruses) and in the case of dinosaurs, concluded that since fossils are often reconstructed from what is found or various fossils are combined to determine a dinosaur’s structure, that the entire thing is fake. Reality is that many things are essentially impossible to prove without inferences, so if you take the position all proof must be definitive to believe anything many things become unknowable. Likewise, they often make the jump from if one thing is false, that means everything connected to it is false as well, when in reality that’s often not the case.
My daughter’s Spring project took her to a famous digging site in Texas where she dug for bones… bones are real. What I often wonder is whether the representations of the dinosaurs are real. Take a hippo skeleton and tell me this is the animal you would draw based on his bones ?! Maybe dinosaurs looked like Barney. Who knows !!!
Well there are anatomical experts who have studied and reconstruct a body from skeleton structure. This is also how forensic scientists for decades now have been able to create body casts of heads from a skull. Not just every yahoo conceives of and throws a pot like that!
When people like Dr. Mike Yeadon are promoting things like there are no nuclear weapons, no viruses, no moon landings etc. it really puzzles one.
The no moon landings one is an easy one. It’s falsifiable by showing only one of their facts is not true or possible. There are a bunch of them. Start with the “space suits” and go from there. Or the dune buggy that they somehow carried there in that tiny lander. And on and on . .
No viruses is easy as well. Never have been shown to exist. Easy to show that other environmental sources cause “pandemics”, as well as manufactured toxins. Spanish “flu” was a combination of massive vaccination of the army, and electromagnetic exposure. Unvaccinated did not “catch it”. And of course there is no such things as Covid-19 killer virus. Flies in the face of Terrain theory, and Pasteur even admitted on his deathbed that germ theory was false, it was the terrain.
Nuclear weapons invention is a gold mine for control and military industrial complex profits. When you find out that Pearl harbor was a collaboration between Japan and US, and hardly anybody died, mostly civilians, then a collaboration to accomplish what the threat of “nukes” did is not hard to imagine. Just another story.
Hey, how about that fake flyby of the moon earlier this year!!!
After reading your article I went to Agent131711u2019s substack and looked at several of his articles. My opinion was that they were shoddily reasoned and researched. And most were behind a paywall, money needed to access the u2018hidden secretsu2019. Your willingness to parrot his claims made me wonder.
Many tells about this one.
The person Agent131711 partners with on medical content (may be the same person) does what you are describing when writing hit pieces on most of the popular natural therapies.
S/he also partners with Medicine Girl who many believe is “paid opposition”… hard to know what to believe at times bc it’s hard to know who and what is real.
Thank you for commenting MW Doc. Your word means a lot to people.
I get his stacks too, and have read some really good stuff, but also some highly questionable stuff. And yes, the paywall is irking.
Aw, relax, and Welcome to the Club !
We’ve all been there.
Make no bones about it !!!!
I see what you did there. uD83DuDE09
If leviathan is a Dino, I believe in Dinos. If leviathan is different from Dinos, I do not believe in Dinos no matter what.
What do you believe is described in Job with a tail like a cedar?
Leviathan?
No, I mean the Behemoth… what do you think God is describing? Most bibles notate an alligator or a hippo but hippos certainly do not have a tail like a cedar. Many scholars believe it’s the Brachiosaurus … I’m just interested …
In 2020 we learned more deeply about establishment lies. Since then, we have begun to learn more deeply about “anti-establishment” lies.
In some cases, I have come to believe, the anti-establishment lies actually come from the establishment so as to confuse the heck out of people. Some refer to this as controlled opposition.
I think this is one of your most interesting articles. I especially loved your conclusion:
“I write about a world thick with engineered lies. I believe that world exists. The discipline that belief demands is the one I skipped. If those in power lie to serve their interests, so do the people selling you the counter-story, and the second group flatters you while it does so. A claim that confirms what you already hold is the one to slow down on, not the one to wave through. I waved it through.”
Thank God you caught yourself.
I’ve long been commenting you are a tad too gullible — to put it bluntly. From a devoted follower. Perhaps you’ll forgive me.
Live and learn…
I love that you own your mistake. That makes you the better man here !
Bigpharma will lie through its teeth, corrupt and censor scientists and even use governments to make cash. Unfortunately that doesnu2019t make people flogging Alternative Health cures paragons of virtue. They make claims to flog a mixture of various compounds that seem miraculous. 90% seem to me to be false. They name doctors and research that doesnu2019t exist. All to make a fast buck by a public let down by bigpharma.
Climate Change is another corrupted money spinner.
AI is very left biased ( Gab is the only one with a Right bias ). But itu2019s a fast easy way to put a sword through these fraudsters.
You should have fed the dinosaur claims through say Grok or ChatGPT. They would have told you in about 2 seconds these creationists are talking bollocks. Same with flat earthers.m
I very seldom use AI, only for a simple question now and then. I have heard about GAB AI as well.
Fossils are everywhere. Crack open almost any rock and you find them. But fossil fuels are not. If you want a good source on abiotic oil read
The Deep Hot Biosphere, the Myth of Fossil Fuels by Thomas Gold
“… Thomas Gold, a respected astronomer and professor emeritus at Cornell University in Ithaca, N.Y., has held for years that oil is actually a renewable, primordial syrup continually manufactured by the Earth under ultrahot conditions and pressures.” – The Wall Street Journal
“[The Deep Hot Biosphere] now seems to be supported by a growing body of evidence.” -Journal of Petroleum Technology
“Thomas Gold has questioned the very foundations of the entrenched conventional models…. [The Deep Hot Biosphere] is evidently one of the most controversial of all books published in recent history. It is bound to cause much debate, and, if found correct, is likely to revolutionize the face of science.” – Current Science
Yes, that was my reply also – I hunted for fossils when I was a kid, and oil is abiotic.
When you read his book it becomes a, Duh!, moment. The idea that it could possibly be fossil fuels is absurd.
I have not seen Lies are Unbekoming’s retraction.
You are far from an idiot!
Thanks for issuing the correction.
Knew you’d figure it out…
My son & his gf just returned from Drumheller Alberta which is known as the “Dinosaur Capital of the World.” “The region’s badlands have yielded over 400 dinosaur skeletons and more than 50 different species, including the first Albertosaurus sarcophagus found by geologist Joseph Burr Tyrrell in 1884.”
I was just getting to the dinosaur post today. Iu2019m glad I was slow to read it.
Learn to open your eyes. This is the official version:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sue_(dinosaur)
Compare the two pictures of the “90%” in bulk (only 73% complete in elements) full skeleton with the picture of the head. Both heads are completely different. The single head shot looks like the skull of Falkor the dragon (from The Neverending Strory). The other more like what we saw in the movie Jurassic Park.
It’s all made up bullshit. Some bones are discovered (while no one else is around), probably from large animals that died less than 100 years ago, and then combined to produce weird shapes. And another “scientist” becomes famous.
Wikipedia? Hahahahaha.
True. Whether or not dinosaurs existed, paleoentologists just make up frankencreatures using bits of bones they find, and create stories for why each limb or tooth must indeed fit in the way it does, with no real evidence for any of it, but built like a house of cards topsy turvy on each last fabrication.
I appreciate your honesty, but I was a skeptic before the unbecoming article and I still am. The physics of a brontosaurus walking the earth donu2019t seem to add up. Some people are wondering if gravity wasnu2019t as strong when dinosaurs were around but that seems like a stretch.
Nikola Tesla disproved gravity over a century ago…
Citation needed. According to my understanding of physics, gravity is the shape of spacetime, and I’m pretty sure that’s a real thing. I could be wrong, and Tesla thought rings around my pretty little head, so if you can provide a good source for that claim I’d appreciate learning of it.
Plenty of citations at the end of this one – the first is a N. Tesla ref. https://unstabbinated.substack.com/p/netwon-and-gravitational-theory-is
Whether I agree with that author or not, I am reading that post now and it substantively addresses the issue, so I deeply appreciate the citation.
Thanks!
You are quite welcome. I cannot speak to that author’s work. Gravity does not make sense – in order to have a force strong enough to hold billions of gallons of water to a ball, no bird could fly, or human stand. Density and buoyancy, along with the electro-magnetic properties of the earth and the life on it, makes far more sense.
The calculations necessary to assess the lift necessary to enable birds to fly and for animals to stand on the planet are common to aerodynamics and physiology. Researchers were baffled on several matters, such as how Redwood trees were able to pump water to their tops, or how bumblebees fly, but eventually learned new things about both creatures that resolved those issues. It may seem counterintuitive that flight is possible, or that giraffes can pump blood to their brains, but you can research these calculations for yourself and better assess their validity.
I observe these things do happen, and reckon folks with the chops to do that math have the right of it, more or less. I’m not a mathemetician, but it isn’t necessary to speak a language, such as math, to understand it is a means of expressing ideas, and I accept all sorts of languages as real and valid I cannot speak a lick of.
Density and bouyancy are extant as well, and are part of those calculations too.
As you wish…
Yes, dinosaurs existed. No, they didn’t evolve. Oil is not “fossil fuel”, it is produced by the earth.
When I was a kid, I had a collection of those cool dinosaur figures, and I also hunted for fossils along the Illinois River bluffs. Lots of Trilobites and fossilized ferns could be found. Only later did I come to understand the truth of the Creator and the creation. It is up to each of us to decide how that creation came to be, when it occurred, etc.
Don’t feel bad about “getting played”. We have all been there at some point, with various points of view of all kinds. Again, we must use critical thinking and discernment, which is a rare trait in these generations.
Abiotic oil is its own remarkable miracle.
One of the aha momenta in my personal Faith journey was when i have realised that when Adam was created he was already an adult, even though he was only minutes u201Coldu201D by our standards.
That made me realize that when God has created the heavens and the earth , they were also u201Cfully u201C mature to be able to sustain life on the Earth, even though was also seconds old by our time measurement .
That realization has made me believe the Creation story , and I have put my faith in the Creator of everything that exists, visible and invisible, and have become a Christian.
God will reveal himself to everyone who is sincerely looking for the truth.
I was once an atheist , I was blind but now I see.
Thank GoduD83DuDE4F
Thank you for writing this post Dr.Yoho.
I still do not believe Dinosaurs existed, but you are free to believe it if you like. Even if you want to say they existed before the flood, Why would God have made such a creature?. Everything he created has and had a purpose on this earth, what was theirs?
Only very small minded people could believe they can understand the mind of God. ‘I don’t know.’ is perhaps the only true answer to any question beyond how to commit simple acts any animal is competent to perform. It’s really none of my business why or how God did or does anything, and I am not the author of the story I play a part in, so I only need to do my part well. That’s more than enough to challenge me beyond my meager abilities. We’re lucky we can tie shoes, much less occasionally grasp fundamental principles of physics.
Jill. Come on, please note the humble pie Dr Yoho just ate. He changed his mind based on rational thinking.
YOU can offer that flexibility to yourself. Consider that more than one thing can be true; that YOU could perhaps NOT know everything and be wrong about God’s rationale for creating things a million years before “man”.
WHO is to say(you?!) that God chose to create a few things and watch how it all ran before he took his big eraser(an asteroid into the Gulf of America) and started over. Who is to say how long ONE day is? 24 hours or 24 million years?
I like this. Especially the u201Ceraseru201D. I cannot presume Gods plans and His wisdom, His obvious sense of humor or anything but that He loves me and is pleased by His Creation. Iu2019m smiling right now, PR Guy. uD83DuDE0AuD83DuDC4DuD83CuDFFB
Don’t question God’s motives.
They were dragons. Our greatest allies!
The focus should not be on dinosaurs not being real (there is much evidence they existed) but that they are the source of an ever diminishing supply of oil.
I was going to unsubscribe, mainly because I cannot keep up with the volume of your output clogging my inbox and my brain cells. But now you have done such an honorable thing that I can’t in good conscience unsubscribe, damn you. Thanks for the integrity.
Scan my material for the content you are interested in and delete the rest. Everyone doesn’t require all the details on every post.
Yeah but…it’s all too good. 😉
My favorite post by you. Wisdom rests on a solid foundation of humility, which requires extraordinary rigor you demonstrate here, and the scientific method is nothing more than applied skepticism, which you applied to your own published work. That takes strong devotion to facts that supercedes pride of reputation. I saw the post title about no dinosaurs, and didn’t bother to read it. I have seen Agent’s work and am not a subscriber for the very reasons you point out misled you. I appreciate their robust skepticism, but it is not accompanied by rigor, and that makes it little more than contrarianism, which I am too afflicted by already.
You gained my respect by retracting fallacious statements that you discovered were fallacious only after careful examination of the source of your change in opinion, without making excuses, and pointing out what you learned from the process. Everyone is wrong sometimes, but honest men change their minds when they find out they were wrong, and that’s what you did. There is hardly a more admirable trait I could cite than honesty, IMHO.
Thanks!
I learned about Agent 171311 some time ago. He/she is linked to Medicine Girl and they use just enough “facts” to draw you in. I pointed out ,very politely, that there were no citations to back up the story, from memory it was very negative about DMSO and I received an abusive response so that told me all I needed to know. Iu2019m a bit surprised that Unbekoming reposted anything from Agent 171311 because they come out with some good stuff but I shall be more careful when reading Unbekomingu2019s essays now. Thanks for making the same mistake we all do, often many times, before we learn the lesson.
Medicine Girl also did a disturbing piece on Viramin D turning our organs to stone.
Agent did one on vitD3 also but his was about it being rat poison. They seem to want to poison the well
Wow, a fast reaction retraction. I believe both your acceptance of the original preface and your current rejection of the original preface are a cause of poor sourcing. Yes, you would need a robust knowledge of the controversies surrounding, “dinosaurs” to include the fabrication of skeletons throughout history that aren’t structurally sound alongside the assumptions that guide the modelling of, “recreations.” Then to say, “Based on a deeper dive into the claims–” using quantitative and not qualitative data points, “–I surmize that I’ve been duped.” This sort of intellectual bipolarity is a feature of a system that floods academia with dogmas while rejecting scrutiny in all of its forms. Scientific consensus is oxymoronic and evidence that scientism is this century’s megachurch.
My paradigms for “dinosaurs” has two possibilities, none of which are listed in the other comments:
1. We are in a simulation, so the programmers can conjure up anything believable that makes us believe we are on a spinning ball and not being thrown into “space’ and the ball is billions of years old. Among other things, one being that history is a complete fabrication (and there is plenty of oil). That would require a thriving fossil industry, kind of like the phony thriving space industry run by NASA. Try being an archaeologist and disputing it, you will be relegated to the unemployment line just like meteorologists who question global warming or virologists who realize publicly that there is no such things as a virus that can cause multiple diseases and pandemics. Or one who questions the PCR tests.
2. This “planet is a school, real or simulated, that is shown to reset every 6,000 years, and along the way has a number of vapor canopy events in between ice ages, this one is coming to an end. The atmospheric conditions cause extreme growth and thus make dinosaur sized life. The simulated VC experiment in Texas does exactly that. So maybe (?) some bones or evidence from prior reset periods survived. BTW, the next VC is due in May 2040, like programmed clockwork. The 2012 London Olympic opening and closing ceremonies actually depict it and what will happen. The school is for your soul, make the most of each class.
Trying to rationalize the Narrative is a waste of time.
We can all get fooled despite our best efforts to seek and embrace only what is true. I have had this experience many times in my life, and likely will again.
Thank you for sticking with courage and integrity and for taking the time to explain how you got fooled.
yes, WE also learned how a very smart fella’ got the woolie pulled over.
Humble we must ALL be.
I applaud your mea culpa. A lesser person would have ignored the comments and waited for the them to fade away. Thank you for u201Cconfessingu201D and removing the post. The lesson you learned is one many of us will benefit from as well.
Whew! Iu2019m glad cuz your posting that worried me a bit.
Your error was shooting first and asking Austin’s later. You do not listen to real scientist who are also young earth creationiss: Kurt Wise, Jason Lyle, Robert Carter, among many, many others… they don’t believe dinosaurs are a psyop. They are constantly revealing discoveries supporting a young earth, including DNA and soft tissue within purportedly 65 million year old fossils. Evolutionary creationism (where God took millions of years instead of days to create) is an attack against the power of God and the message of the gospel, not an answer using what passes as science today. Keep searching and you will find.
Well said!!
Serious respect for owning the misstep. I saved the reminder for your post because it seemed so unexpected that I was keeping it for a rainy day, or a cold night.
I enjoy that u2018stack, and still I feel I was u201Chadu201D by the vitamin D article. My own suspicion of Big Anything clouded my judgement.
It takes a good man to quickly admit his errors and broadcast his mea culpa to those he misinformed. You are a good man, Dr. Yoho!
I fear making a mistake more than anything else.
Lesson learned. I followed you right off the cliff there, but I never thought oil was not abiotic. A little confusing on a bad day of seed oil and pharma harm. I need to buy a pair of boots haha and love you anyway.
I have four books that you can soon buy in hardcover if you’d like, or if you are a paid subscriber like Willowbagz, you’ve already gotten the PDFs.
Donu2019t know. Some huge beast? Dinos were not all hugeu2026
You stated you reposted the dinosaur piece from the Unbekoming subtack, but I don’t think it was ever posted by Unbekoming. Are you sure it wasn’t posted by someone else?
I re-posted on Unbekoming’s post, which was derived from the agent’s post.
Iu2019ve read Agent 11137u2026 & he always seemed like a sensationalist so didnu2019t put much weight behind his posts. Like you I read the original dinosaur post at Unbekoming. Iu2019m bummed that Unbekoming posted it as I always believed that they vetted their posts & I believed the work to be truthful. I guess if itu2019s a republish of someone else then Iu2019ll pass? I hope Unbekoming addresses this.
Unbekoming. . . just signed on but may sign off just as quickly if he fails.
TOOOOOOOooooo prolific also. I cannot keep up with all the posts shoved through my email, and LONG ones!
I was always under the impression that it is not one person, but a group doing all this under one moniker. I have gotten some good and solid information.
Ai slop group. https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/unbekoming-is-a-lie
I have been on both sides of this subject. And so have you. I appreciate your balanced look.
Now I am far more likely to consider you credible. Integrity, character and humility makes a good man. Thank you.
agree.
It takes a REAL man to confess a mistake, The BEST man to do so in public.
When you screw up this badly, you better fess up.
Love
So, UnbeKoming is lining up with Agent and Medicine Girl and 2 others for a presentation they have been advertising for a while. What do you think about that Dr Robert Yoho? Do you have any confidence in any of them? I have been interested in their content and thought their work was referenced but didn’t check the references. Your about turn is surprising. Is anyone real? Is everyone knowingly telling lies with some truth mixed in, or vice versa? This is getting very weird now IMO. I have had question marks over Agent, MG and Unbekoming but gave them the benefit of the doubt without adhering to their positions completely as it is hard/impossible to tell if they are truthers or CO or something else. It is good to admit to being duped, if that is what you were. Nothing wrong with humility IMO. But, I now have zero confidence in anyone passing on their “research”. Maybe someone leaned on you for your public position? uD83EuDD14
“Is anyone real?” Good question.
Maybe SS is an Aye Eye trying to figure what personality, or thought patterns you are susceptible to. Those with the gold make the rules. Stay natural my friend.
Can’t argue with that.
Unbekoming is a very good dude and a friend of mine, and he sometimes does reporting rather than analysis. I think that was the case in this situation. He has been a major contributor to medical fact finding.
Everybody makes mistakes. Some more publicly than others.
If you wind up retracting the Fenbendazole post, please let me know promptly!
Coleen Huber is not in favor of the -azole groups. She’s a ND and treats actual patients. let me get linky for you. https://colleenhuber.substack.com/p/why-you-should-not-take-fenbendazole
Thank you. I’ve just printed it and will read it.
Fenbendazole is a super important story.
I don’t want to say too much publicly, but I got that one at a the perfect time, and have been taking it twice a day for four months
I was going to warn you that this was an article by Agent 171311 and you might want be careful listening to him. You had previously debunked him on DMSO. But you got our “agent” names mixed up once before so I thought better of it.
I’m glad to see your retraction. He and Medicine Girl are building a cult following that denies any science, calls everyone and everything a psyop, and claim to have the exclusive truth. They’ve found a profitable niche. More power too them, I guess, but it’s sad to see people lapping it up.
Thank you for the clarification.
I’m a 62 year old man who is just trying to find things to maintain and improve my health. I really enjoy your pieces and your candor. I’m sorry our names are confusing. I use to use my first name but there was another person using it and people would confuse us. I got accused of saying things I didn’t say. I thought “agent”was unique but I guess not. Haha, I’m doomed.
I’ve seen improvement in my life using DMSO, vitamin d, vitamin c, etc. I have a buddy with a fib and magnesium helped him tremendously. The other agent and medicine girl claim magnesium doesn’t even exist. They claim since his a fib would return worse if he quit magnesium, that means it’s not doing anything, only covering up symptoms. I’d say a fib is a hell of a good symptom to cover up.
Good call (and therefore it is clearly your nature) to quickly admit the mistake once realized. When the dinosaurs post first came up, I was wondering if it was delivered with a wink, but hadn’t had a chance to read it.
I too think it is very likely petroleum is a matter of the deep geology of the earth. When you think about it, 99.999 (and who knows how may more nines) % of the Earth’s non-water composition, under the surface is not easily reached. We know even just the core is a MASSIVE volume, and we agree (or I don’t know how much some of us don’t) that there are molten layers that are of MASS volume (it’d have to be dwarfing the inhabitable “surface” in size (I know the former seems like “cubic” and the latter seems like “square” but you get my point).
So with all that volcanic activity and churning, the idea of abiotic oil seems likely the probability not the possibility. To me (and I haven’t read your stuff), it could be that even to the extent that some say “this reserve is running out” it is really a matter of long term “seepage” from the real sources further away having a chance to refill that area.
Hopefully my attention at some point turns towards your abiotic theories. I need to be better brushed up on that.
Itu2019s a fascinating theory and rings with truth for me. The book mentioned is on my list to read.
There is a huge science behind abiotic oil, mainly from Russian sources. You can access it on the Yandex Russian search engine.
Man Robert. What a Mensch.
THIS is called authentic. Love it.
I only read the main points on your post, and now you retract,.on the same day man supposedly walked on the moon. Anyone with common sense, let alone critical thinking skills,.would question both. Although the references may have their flaws, the questioning in valid.
Yes.
I am suspicious about the moon landings as well.
If you read my post about it, it has a lot of references that make it look completely ridiculous.
The moon landing story looks ridiculous on its face, but my only hesitation in calling it fake is why would they fake another six or so landings? It seems that once they accomplished the first fake landing, they would have called it good and quit. Why would they go on to fake several more and keep adding ridiculous things like the dune buggy? OTOH, why haven’t I heard how the latest human fly-around-but-not-land-on, got through the Van Allen Belt. If they found some hole in the Belt around the North or South poles, why weren’t there articles on exactly how they found the holes and got through and back. The whole thing is confusing and no one answers the important questions.
If they are indeed faked, I’m thinking the answer to why would they keep doing it would be that it’s a big, fat money laundering machine…and part of the “bread and circuses” to keep us peasants distracted while they steal us blind.
You are one of the only prominent writers that I know to be so dedicated to accuracy when it comes to controversial topics, and to have such a rapid turn-around in updating things youu2019ve written when you come across more reliable evidence.
Thank you for that; itu2019s a rare quality.
PS- I also believe that oil is more than just fossil fuelu2026 or at least not everything ascribed to be oil is composed of fossil remnants.
Originally posted on Unbecoming substack, you say?
Yes, that is part of why I gave it credibility.
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We’ll let you slide on this, Doc. I had not heard of the abiotic theory of oil before. It’s interesting and plausible. Ultimately the important point is, contrary to Malthusian devotees, we’re not in immediate danger of running out of oil. I hope the abiotic theory proves out, as it means the earth is makin’ more all the time!
Thank you. I was pissed when I read your first piece. Yes “Fossil Fuels” is a Hoax. Yes, Abiotic Oil is true. Yes, Dinos did exist. Let’s move on…
Greg, you could have pounded me in the first post.
Haha. I am too nice a guy. (Said nobody ever about me) Ah well.. Everyone has been “had” at least once.
It happens to us all. Thanks for having integrity!
Now I respect you even more than before, for being able to say u201CI made a mistakeu201D!
I commend you for this, but I am not surprised having consumed your past posts. I did not care to read the post you reposted anyway.
Your BS meter is better than mine.
Thank you for the follow-up!! uD83DuDC4DuD83CuDFFB uD83DuDE0E
The Creation account cannot be disproved just because some evolutionists ‘have a name’ for some evidences. In 2005 it was confirmed that Dr. Mary Schweitzer found blood cells in T-Rex bones. Since then, other tissues have been found in dinosaur remains that cannot last millions of years, even though the finders (including Dr. S) claim they must have.
At least you have the honesty to admit when you’re wrong
I have been skeptical about claims of dinosaurs being a hoax because it conflicts with my direct real world experience of happening across an undiscovered dinosaurs track line out in the desert. There is also the dinosaurs track museum at Johnsonu2019s farm in St. George Utah which is built directly over the top of where the tracks and even a skin imprint were found, originally discovered by the owner digging up the land for agricultural purposes. Also, there is the Berlin Ichthyosaur state park in Nevada where the uncovered fossil skeletons of whole ichthyosuars are still in the ground, partially exposed for our viewing pleasure. I imagine it is easy for people who never get away from civilization where everything is contrived by man, to believe someone who asserts that something natural doesnu2019t truly exist, simply because it exists outside of their natural frame of reference.
Is anyone able to link or advise where i can find the post Robert is talking about regarding the moon landings being fake and a post that debunks all of the points avout the fakery? I would be most interested in reading it. After watching the American Moon doumentary it left me with the impression that the moon landing was indeed a hoax, atleast back when it was supposed to have happened. Any help finding it would be appreciated!
Also very much appreciated you retracting and explaining why and how you were duped it makes me far more likely to take you seriously on other topics when you prove you make mistakes and arent afraid of correcting them, we’re all just trying to navigate this existence and learn as best we can.
start here – https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/the-moonies-turn-your-mind-into-mush
also, try to research how a 1960s Film Camera was supposed to function in a vacuum (eg. space) from patents prior to 1970. You won’t find any. Move on to Hubble telescopes patents for their camera, and you can see the complexity, that can’t fit into a handheld device.
But it isn’t that important. The Medical Complex and the Bio Terrorism [sic] Regulations are more dangerous.
There’s a whole lot about the moon landing.
To search Substack, go in the upper right-hand corner in the search bar and type in the search terms. I think the moon landing was a hoax.
Robert, I admire your willingness to put yourself out there and actually sign your name to it! I have learned so much from you. Thanks for being willing to admit when you find out you are wrong. Iu2019m still somewhat confused over the Dr. William Makis controversy. I am just curious about after you reposted some information about him and after dhaving time to think about it and read the comments if you have reevaluated your opinion of Dr. William Makis? He seems like one of the good guys but I have been wrong before. We are all searching for the truth. I am embarrassed to say I cheered on the Iraq war and I could go on and on about how deceived I was for 20 years of watching Fox News. So there is no shame in realizing we were influenced incorrectly. I love you and I appreciate your hard work and perseverance! Keep on keeping on! We are the same age and I can appreciate your wanting to find meaning and purpose, truth and all that stuff! Keep up the good work. Much admiration! Sincerely Gigi from Tennessee.
If you read my Makis post (actually, it’s a repost), you will see that I have not revised my opinion about him and that the material is comprehensive.
Dear Dr. Yoho, It is good to withdraw support of false data. I have myself accepted false data for true, as has anyone else. It takes strength to weigh the information you get because you get so much with so many vested agendas. Thanks for the retraction. ZoeV
I stopped reading Agent 131711 a while ago when I realized he was just making sh!t up based on u201Cconspiracy theoriesu201D. It sounds legit until it doesnu2019t. Kudos to you for admitting you were
duped. He and Medicine Girl are known writing u201Ctrollsu201D and disinformation agents. I will still read your substack articles.
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You should have pounded me in the first post.
Well, yes, I could have but I think it is best when we find out the truth ourselves. I knew the agent blabla article was bs because I’ve seen dino skeletons and I’ve seen dino footprints in Hadley, MA, where I lived for a time. I don’t claim to know a great deal about dinos or paleontology in general, but when you read something that smells u201Coffu201D, the bs alarm goes off. And of course u201Cagentu201D has written other pieces which I knew were bs right away so I knew this person is a disinformation agent. Hence the name u201Cagentu201D, I guess. Btw, I agree with you on abiotic sources of oil. I think the oil is earth created and inexhaustible. u201CPeak Oilu201D was another fear mongering hoax. Just like vaccine u201Cscienceu201D, the climate change hysteria will fall apart in time. You just keep on doing what you do, I enjoy your articles and point of view!
Oh dear. Enter dragons perhaps? Giants? Honesty is good, but this topic is oh so complex. Smithsonian. NASA. Both run by entities far more intelligent than us.
I wouldn’t ponder on it too much Dr. Yoho.
From time to time, even the best of us get hooked on senseless materials.
The important thing is that you called it out and retracted it.
That’s what actual science represents.
This was a purposeful deception, not senseless materials.
All too often people rush to publish some thesis or hypothesis in the absence of proper research, and then when confronted with the facts, they will defend to the death their position for whatever personal reasons. Far rarer is the writer who realizes his factual failures and is willing to publicly submit them with an apology and the reasoning behind the submission. My already considerable respect for Dr. Yoho has increased today.
Thank you Dr Yoho for coming forward with truth and honesty today . So refreshing to read. uD83CuDDE8uD83CuDDE6uD83DuDC95
After all the big lies of the last 25 years including 9/11 and the scamdemic it is easy to now become so jaded that everything feels like it could be a lie. It is good to have had this kind of a lesson. With that I am ready to jettison many staks and develop a new hobby.
Thanks Dr Yoho.
Your retraction is closing in on being a masterwork. You should really consider making a pilgrimage to Glen Rose, Texas (after temperatures drop in the fall) and see the dinosaur tracks in person. They aren’t proof-positive of the geologic record, but they are pretty unassuming and are very near great BBQ. Again, kudos for your integrity. Thank you!
Put it on my list, but it’s a long list.
A retraction so unambiguous and forthright, is as refreshing as it is unexpected in this day. Thank you Dr Yoho. This is a great post in and of itself, if for no other reason than the fact it was written at all.
Love.
Trust but verify..
f@@@ These Psy-Op’s.
Never had a problem with whether or not dinosaurs existed. Do have a problem believing the trillions of gallons of oil all came from algae and plankton.
Look to the world of pressed oils made today. A whole lot of material has to be processed to get a quart. I have trouble blindly believing millions of acres of rain forests were, CONVENIENTLY, pressed to produce lakes of oil all over the world, under the repeating conditions. . . .
I agree with you. Think of the level of materials that would have to be compressed to make all the oil we’ve pumped out since the dawn of the oil age. Just doesn’t match.
I like the theory that George Carlin once put forth that the only reason we’re here on Earth is to produce plastic for the planet. His rationale was that the planet couldn’t make it for itself so it produced humans to make the stuff for the planet. I think he might have been on to something, although I also think he thought that was all humans are really good for anyway… Otherwise, welcome to the snookered club!
Ugggg now I have to work with mu own cognitive dissonance uD83EuDD26u200Du2640uFE0F
Sorry.
The truther conspiracy world is full to the brim with controlled ops. One of the most common tricks is ‘limited hangout’ where a large dollop of truth is exposed in a way designed intentionally to discredit it. The fact that you got conned by a couple of the most prolific con-jobs on Substack, who churn out dime a dozen sensationalist exposu00E9s at a rate only AI could manage, does not necessarily discredit the fundamental doubt. It discredits the authors.
The insistence on referring to fossil fuels as decomposed dinosaur remains was an instant tell. Only the ignorant don’t know it is claimed to be prehistoric plankton. It’s not. Oil is abiotic.
One bone I have to pick concerns the notion that there only exists the Hegelian choice between Evolution and Creationism. Both are theories that are, or have been, foisted on us by the Establishment. Probably the answer lies elsewhere.
Given that dinosaurs came to us from the same proven pathological liars that brought us Global Warming, Moon Landings, Phantom Pandemics, Viruses, Nuclear Bombs and 9/11, and clearly serve their anti-human agenda, extreme skepticism is still warranted.
Just learn to recognise the gatekeepers, then what they reveal, and crucially what they occult, becomes useful.
Exactly.
Dr.Yoho you are an amazing man! Your integrity gives us faith where others have given us doubt! Your honor holds us all to a higher standard! Much respect and appreciation.
Dr.Yoho you are an amazing man! Your integrity gives us faith where others have given us doubt! Your honor holds us all to a higher standard! Much respect and appreciation.
Fantastic compliment.
Absolutely agree. The time you spend to bring us this helpful information is hard to comprehend. We appreciate you and your honesty.
I know dinosaurs are real and the earth and all that is made was created by God. But I also know there are many who spread their beliefs and lies about both, for their own reasons. That is why I rely on the Bible for the truth. Nobody gets everything right all the time so I appreciate your integrity and humility in bringing us the retraction.
Living in the world of manipulations today is the very hardest thing to tolerate!!!
Hereu2019s another theory: prior to Noahu2019s flood, there were many species that didnu2019t survive. If the earth was thick with vegetation and animal life and that was suddenly covered by water, oil could have formed under the pressure.
Could dinosaurs have actually been dragons?!? uD83EuDDD0 plenty of u201Chistoryu201D to support that idea believe. Cave drawings, Chinese culture, etc. just a thoughtu2026.
And in old encyclopedias…
Thanks for this essay. Humility and transparency are hallmarks of a fine thinker. You can’t do better. I was just thinking yesterday about oil as the residue of ancient animals and thought, that was a LOT of animals to be compressed into that much oil. If animals were the source of oil, thanks to them. If not, where did the oil come from?
When I listened to the article and heard you mention Agent171311, I became skeptical. There were some substacks I initially read from Agent, but almost none of the assertions made in them rang true and upon checking they weren’t. I unsubscribed and unfollowed him/her. I was surprised you reposted the Dinosaur substack, but I’m not surprised by the retraction. That being said, the use of the fossil fuel term for the impression of scarcity isn’t so farfetched, and I do believe oil is a renewable energy source because I’ve done quite a bit of digging into abiotic oil. It’s one explanation for how dried up oil fields have regenerated. My personal belief is that existing research hasn’t been given much credit is because if oil is indeed abiotic and as such a renewable energy, it would seriously impact the world’s oil market.
Remember that Jupiteru2019s moon, Titan, has a hydrocarbon sea. Probably abiotic.
https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Cassini-Huygens/Profile_of_a_methane_sea_on_Titan
Unbekoming reposted the stack from Agent131 something something , who unfortunately has a large following despite publishing fear porn propaganda nonsense that doesn’t check out.
see:
https://substack.com/@collapsepodcast/note/c-274322738?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=4x1ar
https://substack.com/@collapsepodcast/note/c-274322456?r=4x1ar&utm_source=notes-share-action&utm_medium=web
Its sad to see such disinfo agents capture the substack audience so easily.
Thank you for your due diligence.
Well done. As the late and great Bill Hicks said: “God put dinosaur bones into the ground to confuse us? I believe god put you out there to confuse me!”