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This post is dedicated to our wonderful menopausal women. I spent a quarter of my career trying to help you, but most of you DFL to me.

Editor’s introduction by Jim Arnold of Liar’s World Substack

I like this post. It is specialized, but motivated readers will learn a lot. It gives an inside view into Dr. Yoho’s medical knowledge and his discernment in sorting through conflicting information.

Ray Peat came from an atypical background for a healthcare authority, and he made important contributions to thyroid therapy. He also gave misleading guidance on estrogen and progesterone. Since no one has his hands on the entire healthcare elephant, there is no shame in making a few mistakes. The trouble is that his zealous followers are preserving his bathwater along with his baby. The key theme of Dr. Yoho’s Substack is that you must do your research and not place blind faith in any guru or institution.

Author’s Introduction

This post took weeks of research, thought, and editing. It is the start of my rewrite of Hormone Secrets, and the key takeaways are more about hormone therapy than Ray Peat. Even if you have no great interest in this subject, scan past the first few sections to find the video interview of two women who were thoughtlessly castrated by their gynecologist. This event happens daily in every major city in the United States, and it is a testimony to how aggressively dysfunctional this specialty is.

Although I always recommend obtaining provider help if you can find a good one, the appendix has information on where to obtain hormones without a prescription. Most of the field, with the exception of thyroid, is driven by simple protocols, and a DIY approach is far better than doing without hormone health-improving and protective effects as a senior. Although there are a few simple caveats, the risk-to-reward ratio is infinitesimally small. I would go a step further and say that hormones should be over-the-counter, and that scheduling testosterone was political rather than designed for patient protection. Hormone Secrets has more about that.

Summary

· Ray Peat was a PhD biologist and theoretician with a destroyed thyroid who became an underground hormone authority without ever treating a patient in person.

· His bioenergetic framework, with mitochondria at the center, thyroid as the master switch, carbohydrates as the preferred fuel, and polyunsaturated fats as metabolic poisons, is largely correct.

· His thyroid work is his strongest contribution. It updates the temperature-and-pulse diagnostic tradition of Broda Barnes, a Fort Collins, Colorado, physician who treated tens of thousands of hypothyroid patients in the mid-20th century.

· His estrogen position generalized from synthetic carcinogen data in rats to bioidentical estradiol in women, and it is wrong.

· The Women’s Health Initiative (WHI), launched in 1991 and reported in 2002, was captured science. Between 2002 and 2011, somewhere between 18,600 and 91,000 American women died prematurely as a result. The historical record is incomplete, but the study’s structural flaws appear intentional.

· Bioidentical hormone therapy started within the menopausal window, balanced with progesterone and testosterone, is safe and life-enhancing.

A roadmap before we begin

I reached a split verdict on Peat. He was right about the thyroid and the bioenergetics of cell metabolism. He was wrong about estrogen. The error came from generalizing rat studies done with diethylstilbestrol (DES), a synthetic carcinogen, to bioidentical estradiol in women. The mistake was honest, not corrupt, but his followers and sympathetic figures like Joe Mercola have amplified it in ways that have hurt women.

The 2002 Women’s Health Initiative report did similar damage from inside the medical establishment. Both errors share the same shape: synthetic hormones are not bioidentical hormones, and treating them as identical kills people.

I have a firm rule. If a topic is confusing, it is not because I am out of my intellectual depth. The problem is usually inconsistencies or falsehoods. For some lawyers or salespeople, these are purposeful. I felt a sense of bewilderment about the Peat material, and I will explain the analysis I worked out after studying it.

I have a deep background in hormone therapy. I worked full-time for a year and spent at least 1,000 hours reviewing the academic literature and writing Hormone Secrets. My hormone clinical experience and training, combined, total at least another 1,000 hours.

I expand on these subjects in the new edition of my book, which will be available soon. The first edition is excellent, and you download it here for free.

Players in this drama

Hormone specialists

They prescribe bioidentical hormones that are chemically indistinguishable from the body’s. This is safe with a few caveats. The field is not complicated, and many physician’s assistants or nurse clinicians do a good job if they have proper training.

Gynecologists

They are rarely well-informed about up-to-date menopause treatment because they focus on profitable hysterectomies and cesarean sections. These procedures are performed at least 50% more often than they should be for the best patient outcomes. Things have gotten so bad that 41.8% of women aged 75 and older and roughly 35% of women aged 65 to 74 have had a hysterectomy.

Some gynecologists do a great job, and others casually mutilate their patients. The hormone-prescribing logic of many of them is broken. When a woman has had a hysterectomy, they prescribe estrogen alone. The reasoning: progesterone is needed only to protect the uterus from cancer, so a woman without a uterus does not need it. This ignores progesterone’s many benefits for sleep, mood, bone, breast tissue, and the cardiovascular system.

Endocrinologists

They claim to know more about hormones and thyroid disease than other specialists. Their success at treating the most common thyroid disorder, hypothyroidism, is hampered by their compulsory use of TSH (thyroid-stimulating hormone) to measure the condition and direct therapy. This measure is indirect and imprecise.

They are aggressively anticompetitive and sometimes try to intimidate their colleagues by reporting them to the medical board for practicing outside the Endos’ purported “gold standards.” In their defense, endocrinologists are the most sophisticated physicians when it comes to a far rarer problem: Graves’ disease.

Ray Peat (1936-2022)

He was an academic, not a clinician. He wrote and spoke widely about menopause and related issues. His work was imperfect but widely respected in some circles. He advocated for the long-established but partly forgotten approach to hypothyroidism that uses body temperature and careful symptom monitoring. His signature position, that estrogen is commonly a health problem, is 180 degrees wrong, and that error makes it difficult to take the rest of his platform seriously.

Comment: Criticizing anyone retrospectively, after they have died, is an easy project. Peat’s legacy holds many intellectual triumphs and good works, and I do not want to pretend otherwise. The point of this essay is to keep what he got right and walk away from what he got wrong.

The Ray Peat acolytes

I call them this because Peat was apparently so charismatic that his followers behaved like religious disciples. They had unreasoning faith in the supposed problems with estrogen.

One of them asked me a naive question: “Do you have personal experience prescribing estrogen alone?” The implication was that since I always paired estrogen with progesterone, I had no way to separate the effects of estrogen by itself.

I told him I had not, and explained why. Bioidentical prescribing pairs the two hormones because unopposed estrogen raises the risk of uterine cancer in women with an intact uterus. Adding progesterone drops the cancer rate below the baseline of untreated women. The follower had stumbled into a serious practice question without realizing it. There is a whole specialty, gynecology, that does prescribe estrogen alone after a hysterectomy. Their reasoning is illogical: they assume progesterone’s only function is uterine protection, so a woman without a uterus needs no progesterone. They miss progesterone’s benefits everywhere else in the body.

This Peat fan also seemed unaware of the hundreds of studies and millions of patient experiences that show the benefits of estradiol after menopause. The cardiovascular protection studies alone would fill a large book. Opinions like his are what you get when you set somebody up as a guru and study a single source.

I have been guilty of this several times: with Mercola, with Dr. Peter Breggin about methylene blue, and with Dr. Neal Rouzier about progesterone usage for men. The last two ran down the utility of these agents, and they were wrong. For whatever weaknesses I have, one strength is that I change my mind. I also walk away quickly from people who give me false information.

The stars of this show are our precious and often troubled menopausal women.

This section is excerpted from Hormone Secrets.

Ideal hormone levels look like this.

Below are typical patient testimonials. (There are many more in the book.)

Linda is a 63-year-old registered nurse: Testosterone makes me feel sexy and gives me an overall feeling of well-being. My strength and muscle tone improve, especially when I exercise. When I was younger, I got a little aggressive when I used it, but now I am either OK with aggression, or maybe it does not happen. I have paranoia and anxiety when I do not take progesterone, even though I am not an anxious person. I sometimes get a little depressed, and extra progesterone helps. I take from one to three of the 200 mg capsules a day, and it mellows me out. With estradiol, my memory improves, and I sleep better. I am less tired. I have tried different doses, and I know what works best for me.

Patsy is a 45-year-old accountant: I had my hysterectomy [with ovary removal] ten years ago when my daughter was only six years old. I didn’t get on hormone replacement until last year. I thought about my life and wrote my daughter an apology letter about the way I treated her. I was just so depressed and anxious. Progesterone has been the biggest relief. I feel human again.

Janice, 51 years old: My marriage was disintegrating, I hated everyone around me, and I felt terrible. But I got on the hormones, and they saved me. I am trying to repair all the damage I did.

June is 49. She started estradiol, progesterone, and testosterone eight weeks ago: Hey, doing well on my hormones. About two months in now. My energy is up, as is my sex drive and my enjoyment of it. My muscle tone and skin look great, and some old friends I gathered with on the East Coast last week accused me of having an aging painting of myself in a closet somewhere. I am still having hot flashes at night and wonder if I should adjust my estrogen up some? My reply was: Increase your estradiol to 2 mg each morning. We may decide to increase your progesterone and will check your levels on your next office visit.

Many women have prodigious emotional strength. They continue to function well and look attractive despite severe menopause symptoms. It shocked my wife and me when our questionnaire revealed how miserable they were. Many admitted they felt as if the entire world was against them. Others said they were hanging on by their fingernails. Some gave up and stopped trying.

Women are often convinced their angst is situational or existential rather than a hormonal deficiency. They are wrong. Progesterone, estradiol, and testosterone improve or cure these symptoms. Many women get complete relief using testosterone alone. DHEA (dehydroepiandrosterone), vitamin D, and melatonin are also helpful.

Don’t read this paragraph if you are politically correct. Women who have been keeping up often think they know more about hormones than I do. So I ask my patients if they are interested in feeling better and leave it at that. I never try to persuade anyone to start therapy, because leading this horse to water is all I can do. Arguing with them about whether they are thirsty is like arguing with Germans. You just piss everyone off. (Since I am German, I get a pass on this.)

A lovely interview with two women who were castrated during their thirties by their gynecologists.

Castration in a woman means the surgical removal of both ovaries. It is the female equivalent of removing a man’s testicles, and the hormonal consequence is the same: an abrupt collapse of sex hormone production with body-wide effects. Castration is not the same as a hysterectomy, which removes only the uterus. The two surgeries often happen together because that brings in a second professional fee for the surgeon and makes the procedure technically simpler.

Yes, this is a thing, it is legal, and the surgery was done here in California, not Pakistan. The women below were crashed into severe premature menopause, which would have ended their lives prematurely. I treated them with bioidentical hormones, and they describe their recoveries in the video. Identical but less dramatic scenarios happen as hormonal secretion declines during normal menopause.

Both had hysterectomies for excessive uterine bleeding, sometimes done as a convenience rather than taking the time to administer high-dose progesterone or other restorative procedures. The destructive part of these surgeries was not the removal of the uterus but the removal of the ovaries. Even when the ovaries are preserved, their function is often destroyed by a disrupted blood supply.

How I got involved in hormone therapy for women, and how it works

Doctors tend to treat patients of similar age to them, and as my cosmetic practice and I matured, so did my patients. One day 20 years ago, I looked around, and almost all were postmenopausal women. Most had significant symptoms. I was sympathetic, and I was on hormone replacement therapy myself. My friend, Dr. Neal Rouzier, had become an international authority on HRT, so I started attending his seminars.

When I began treating patients, I decided to charge them only a nominal fee or make it free if they had cosmetic surgery from me. Their only cost was the price of their medications at the pharmacy.

Some clinicians check labs before starting, but many hormone doctors, including me, treat symptoms before getting bloodwork. A 55-year-old with hot flashes, crashed libido, broken sleep, and vaginal dryness got estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone in physiologic replacement amounts. The doses are stereotyped and easy to adjust. Thyroid therapy requires lab work that my patients often did not pay for and is more complicated, so I never prescribed it. This was a consequential mistake because the thyroid is the driver of all hormones and energy in the human body.

After therapy is established, a single blood test documents that hormones are present in protective concentrations. The American College of Gynecology and the Mayo Clinic both say that no testing is needed before prescribing hormones to menopausal women. It is that safe.

I prescribed bioidentical hormones to hundreds of patients using this approach. I checked blood levels later for the women who paid for it. With estradiol levels around 75 to 150 pg/ml using oral micronized estradiol and progesterone in the middle of the second half of the cycle for menstruating women (10 to 20 ng/ml), their symptoms went away. I would push progesterone higher to suppress bleeding when needed. Testosterone in the 250 to 300 ng/dL range, by cream or, rarely, injection, restored the patient’s vitality. Hot flashes stopped. Vaginal atrophy resolved. Libido came back. Mood stabilized. Sleep normalized. Skin improved.

These events happened routinely in my hormone practice, and each one seemed like a miracle to both the patient and me.

Three principles I learned in practice

The most common failure in hormone therapy is not too much hormone but too little. Doses creep down, patients skip doses, prescribers undertreat to avoid blame, and the woman never gets the relief the therapy delivers. Symptom resolution requires getting enough of the right hormone inside the body and keeping it there.

Within a range the clinician sets, the patient should adjust her dose. She knows her sleep, her libido, her hot flashes, her energy, and her mood better than the office or the lab does. Give her the range, the ceiling, the warning signs, and let her run the dial.

A blood test drawn after therapy has settled confirms that hormones are present in the protective range. The number tells whether the cardiovascular and bone-preserving effects are being delivered, and it tells the prescriber what to change when a patient is not responding.

How I got interested in Ray Peat

A brilliant reader, whom I will call Jane, generously sent me a set of Peat references along with her sharp commentary. Jane has been hypothyroid for more than 50 years. She has central hypothyroidism, which means her pituitary does not make TSH, so her thyroid gland does not get the signal to produce thyroid hormones. She has been adjusting her thyroid therapy using pulse, temperature, and blood testing for decades. She is not a doctor, but she is smarter about thyroid issues than most of them.

Peat was associated with Joe Mercola, who was my primary mentor for nearly a decade. Mercola adopted Peat and his signature position that estrogen is toxic. This contradicts everything I learned in my years of study and prescribing bioidentical hormones to hundreds of menopausal women whose lives visibly improved. I watched estrogen resolve vaginal atrophy, restore libido, sharpen cognition, and improve sleep. Academic evidence shows it also reduces the risk of heart disease.

Based on Peat’s work, Jane is doubtful about the importance of estrogen. I view her as a serious intellect, but as I have written before, no one has his hands on the entire healthcare elephant.

Who was Ray Peat?

Raymond Franklin Peat was born in Santee, California, in 1936 and died in November 2022 at 86. He attended Southern Oregon University, transferred to the University of Oregon as a humanities student, and did residency coursework in philosophy of language at Ohio State before finishing a master’s thesis titled “William Blake and the Mysticism of Sense and Non-Sense” in 1960.

He started as a literature student and a Blake scholar. In 1961, he taught intro biology at Urbana College. In 1962, he founded Blake College, a tiny liberal arts school in Valle de Bravo, Mexico, described by one source as “a school with a critical attitude rather than a curriculum.” He ran it for most of the decade. Only in 1968 did he return to the University of Oregon, this time for a PhD in biology-biochemistry with a focus on physiology. He finished in 1972 with a dissertation titled “Age-Related Oxidative Changes in the Hamster Uterus.”

Everything Peat wrote for the next 50 years flowed out of that dissertation. The central claim: aging is a pro-oxidative, pro-inflammatory, estrogen-dominant process, and the preservation of youthful structure and function requires mitochondrial energy output, adequate thyroid hormone, abundant progesterone, and protection from the things that degrade mitochondrial function: polyunsaturated fats, chronic stress, excess serotonin, and unopposed estrogen.

He taught at the University of Oregon, Urbana College, Montana State University, the National College of Naturopathic Medicine, Universidad Veracruzana in Mexico, Universidad Autonoma del Estado de Mexico, and Blake College. In 1984, he patented a formulation described in his article “Treatment of progesterone deficiency and related conditions with a stable composition of progesterone and tocopherols.” This was the progesterone-in-vitamin-E combination he later commercialized as Progest-E.

What nobody tells you about Peat

Multiple Peat followers report that his thyroid gland was destroyed in childhood by radiation from a miscalibrated fluoroscopy. This aligns with Peat’s lifelong self-experimentation with desiccated thyroid and his insistence that hypothyroidism is the master dysfunction underlying most chronic illnesses. A boy whose thyroid was wrecked by medical incompetence before he was a teenager, and who lived to 86 on his hormonal regimen, is not a man whose thyroid opinions should be dismissed.

It also frames his estrogen phobia. Radiation was the original carcinogen to which he was exposed. In the 1930s and 1940s, Alexander Lipschutz demonstrated that small continuous doses of diethylstilbestrol (DES), a synthetic estrogen-mimicking carcinogen, produced cancer in every animal he studied. Peat read this literature at a time when the dominant message was “estrogen is a feminine hormone, give it freely.” He was watching a scientific error, but he interpreted the mistake as corruption.

Was Peat a clinician?

Not in any sense recognizable to a practicing physician. He ran what he called “private nutritional counseling”: phone consultations, newsletters, and emails from correspondents around the world. This was an early form of telemedicine, and he did take histories by phone. Yet he never did a physical exam, never ordered a lab as a treating clinician, never saw the same patient over months and adjusted her dose, and never watched a 55-year-old woman with hot flashes go from miserable to flourishing on bioidentical hormones.

A theoretician reads the animal literature and concludes that all estrogen is carcinogenic. He cannot then compare that conclusion to the physiologic levels restored by a 1 to 2.5 mg oral estradiol capsule in a 55-year-old woman whose ovaries made the same compound at higher concentrations for 40 years without giving her cancer.

Peat compounded this by staying mostly within the Oregon alternative-medicine ecosystem. His readers and correspondents were the tip of the iceberg of people whose medicine had failed them, or who had been harmed by synthetic progestins or equine estrogens. The feedback he got was authentic but filtered. He did not see the millions of women for whom proper bioidentical hormone therapy, started in the menopausal window, transformed their health and well-being.

The bioenergetic framework: where Peat got it mostly right

Energy is the organizing principle. Mitochondria are not only the cell’s energy factories; they are the main regulator of cell structure, signaling, and adaptive response. If you lose mitochondrial output, you lose the capacity to maintain structure, repair damage, and resist stress. Aging is largely a story of progressive mitochondrial failure.

The thyroid is the master regulator of mitochondrial output. T3 (triiodothyronine) is the active thyroid hormone. T4 (thyroxine) is the less active storage form the body converts to T3. T3 controls the rate at which mitochondria burn fuel and produce heat and energy. The critical measure is T3, not TSH or T4 (my group uses free T3 rather than the other thyroid hormones). Measuring TSH to diagnose hypothyroidism is like checking the wall thermostat to determine whether the furnace is working. The pituitary hormones from the brain influence thyroid hormone production, but they do not have effects at the tissue level.

Carbon dioxide is protective, not a waste product. Peat was one of the few physiologists writing for a popular audience about how carbon dioxide stabilizes proteins, supports oxygen delivery to tissues, and reduces lactic acid buildup. When cells burn glucose properly with oxygen, they put out carbon dioxide. When they cannot burn glucose properly, they make lactic acid, the same compound that gives muscles a burn during heavy exercise. Lactic acid pile-up is a sign that the cell has run out of oxygen or that its energy machinery is broken.

Polyunsaturated fats destabilize membranes and poison mitochondria. This is now mainstream, at least outside the corrupt American Heart Association’s guidelines. Linoleic acid from seed oil sources like nuts and corn oil oxidizes inside cells, produces reactive molecules that damage tissue, binds up the inner mitochondrial membrane, and interferes with energy production. Saturated and monounsaturated fats, like animal fats, coconut oil, and olive oil, are stable. Peat wrote about this in the 1970s, when the official position was that polyunsaturated fats were heart-healthy. Chris Knobbe, Cate Shanahan, Peter Attia, and most of the serious metabolic-health community have caught up with him.

Serotonin is a stress hormone, not the happiness hormone. For decades, doctors and patients have been told that depression results from low serotonin and that raising serotonin levels with drugs like Prozac (fluoxetine) and Zoloft (sertraline) corrects the problem. This was a marketing fiction. The serotonin-deficit theory was never proven. The drug companies needed a story to sell the SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors), so they invented one and the medical establishment accepted it.

Peat’s framework gets it right. Serotonin is elevated in sepsis, in shock, in gut-derived endotoxemia, and in carcinoid tumors. Raising it chronically with SSRIs produces the flattened, dissociated, sexually-blunted patient with the thousand-yard stare we recognize as another antidepressant casualty. Sixteen percent of US residents take these drugs.

Comment: Peat’s framework predicted the damage SSRIs have been proven to cause. Beyond the disorders above, they produce violence and suicide. This was known to the researchers before they released the drugs. The mass murders we have seen are nearly all associated with antidepressant usage. The double-blind, placebo-controlled trials supposedly underpinning the SSRIs were ruined by fake controls. For more, see Robert Whitaker’s books and madinamerica.com.

Sugar is not the enemy. The body’s preferred fuel is glucose, burned aerobically in mitochondria. Fructose from fruit and honey spares liver glycogen, supports thyroid conversion, and fills the 3 a.m. cortisol trough that wakes so many perimenopausal women. The demonization of sugar in the last 20 years has been driven in part by the low-carb industry and is not fully supported by physiology. The damage attributed to sugar has mostly been done by sugar delivered alongside industrial polyunsaturated fats: a donut, a corn chip, a fried potato. The sugar does less damage than the oil it is fried in. Peat is right about this.

None of this is new if you have been following the metabolic health movement. But Peat was saying it 40 years earlier.

Thyroid: where Peat is strongest

Peat wrote “Thyroid: Therapies, Confusion, and Fraud” in 2006, and it is the single most useful short document on hypothyroidism I have ever seen. To make sense of his claims, you need to know who Broda Barnes was. Barnes was a Fort Collins, Colorado, physician who treated tens of thousands of hypothyroid patients from the 1940s through the 1980s. He used basal body temperature on waking, resting pulse, and clinical signs to diagnose, then prescribed natural desiccated thyroid (NDT) to almost universal benefit. His 1976 book “Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness” is still the best general treatment of the topic. Peat’s ideas match Barnes’s almost exactly:

1. TSH is a pituitary signal, not a thyroid hormone, so it is a poor measure of function that fails most hypothyroid patients.

2. T4 is a storage hormone, and T3 is the active hormone. If the liver cannot convert T4 to T3 due to low selenium, low carbohydrate intake, chronic cortisol elevation, estrogen excess, gut endotoxin, or mercury exposure, prescribing more T4 will not help.

3. Morning body temperature below 98 degrees Fahrenheit and a resting pulse under 80 beats per minute in a sedentary adult are better diagnostic signs of hypothyroidism than any blood test.

4. Natural desiccated thyroid, or NDT (Armour, NP Thyroid, ThyroVanz), supplies both T4 and T3 in a physiologic ratio. Synthetic T4 alone does not.

5. Older testing methods using body temperature in the first half of the 20th century identified about 40% of Americans as hypothyroid. Family physicians prescribed desiccated thyroid and cured a wide range of diseases with it: cold hands, infertility, depression, high cholesterol, and even some cancers. This did not fit the business model of the American Thyroid Association, whose guidelines card is, as Jane puts it, “pocket-sized scripture for the white-coated brain-dead zombies.”

I tried this older approach myself. Using a grain of NP Thyroid plus 5 mcg of T3, I watched my basal temperature climb from 96.4 to 97.8. I had a general uptick in energy and better sleep. Jane’s account of adjusting her NP Thyroid over nine months, with blood tests every six to eight weeks, shows the same pattern from a far harder starting point.

Bovine-sourced desiccated thyroid (ThyroVanz and others) is available without a prescription. T3 is available from research peptide suppliers and Mexican pharmacies. Neither requires a licensed prescriber (See the appendix for purchasing details). Combined with the temperature-and-pulse protocol, this is the best system for basic hypothyroid patients, who are the vast majority of thyroid cases. For complicated thyroid issues like Hashimoto’s with high antibodies, central hypothyroidism like Jane’s, pituitary problems, and thyroid cancer, a licensed physician with lab access is the right choice.

The American Thyroid Association advocates a narrow TSH reference range (0.5 to 2.5 mIU/L), refuses to accept TSH values below 0.5, persecutes family physicians who prescribe desiccated thyroid, and guards its prescribing authority from other specialties with cartel-like rigidity. They are among the sharpest examples of medical capture I have studied. Jane is right: much of medicine is a criminal enterprise, and the Medicare Part D insurers who send warning letters to patients telling them to get their doctors to “take them off this dangerous drug” (referring to NDT) are accessories.

If Peat had done nothing else, his hypothyroid work alone would secure his legacy. He took a partly forgotten diagnostic tradition from Broda Barnes, updated it with enzymology and selenium biochemistry, and made it available to a generation of patients who were being failed by endocrinologists. Jane’s case, central hypothyroidism with a pituitary that does not make TSH, diagnosed and managed over 50 years with temperature, pulse, blood testing, and desiccated thyroid, is a living refutation of the TSH-only paradigm.

Estrogen: where Peat went wrong

Peat’s estrogen position is laid out in his book, “Not the ‘female hormone,’ but the shock hormone.” He claims that estrogen, unopposed by relatively high progesterone levels, creates the conditions of aging. These include interference with oxidative metabolism, formation of lipofuscin, iron retention, free radical production, excitotoxic cell death, elevated prolactin, thymic atrophy, increased blood clotting, and susceptibility to a wide variety of cancers.

We hormone clinicians know now that estrogen should never be prescribed without progesterone. If the uterus is intact, unopposed estrogen slightly increases the chances of uterine cancer. When the two are prescribed together, uterine cancer rates drop below the baseline of untreated patients. Women who have had a hysterectomy should take progesterone anyway because of its many benefits. The gynecologists’ claim that, if you do not need progesterone to prevent uterine cancer, you do not need it at all, is moronic.

Peat’s main animal evidence came from Alexander Lipschutz’s 1930s and 1940s studies in hamsters and rats. Those studies proved that continuous low-dose synthetic estrogen causes cancer. The finding does not generalize to bioidentical hormones in humans because Lipschutz used DES, a transplacental synthetic carcinogen and one of the worst drugs approved in the 20th century. The wrong type of estrogen, given at the wrong dose, in the wrong species, says nothing about a 55-year-old woman taking 1 to 2.5 mg of oral bioidentical estradiol to replace what her ovaries produced for 40 years.

Peat is right about the hazards of synthetic progestins and equine estrogens. Premarin is a chaotic mixture of conjugated equine estrogens harvested from the urine of pregnant horses. It contains equilin, equilenin, and other estrogens foreign to the human body. Medroxyprogesterone acetate, sold as Provera and used as the “progestin” (imitation progesterone) component of Prempro, is not progesterone but a synthetic steroid with partial glucocorticoid, androgenic, and antiprogestogenic activity. It does not act like progesterone at the receptor. Synthetic progestins have strong associations with breast cancer in the studies.

Peat’s central error was conflating bioidentical estradiol with synthetic and equine analogs at supraphysiologic doses. He called all of it “estrogen” and treated chemicals that bind the estrogen receptor as the same molecules the human ovary makes. Other medical providers, including many gynecologists, make the same conceptual error: bucketing synthetic, equine, and bioidentical hormones under a single term.

Peat never engaged the bioidentical HRT (hormone replacement therapy) community on its evidence. Millions of women on compounded or FDA-approved bioidentical estradiol, progesterone, and testosterone, started within 10 years of menopause (the clinical window now confirmed repeatedly), do not develop the cancers he predicted. On average, they live longer, maintain bone and cognitive health, keep their hearts healthy, and enjoy their lives. JoAnn Manson, a Harvard professor and one of the original WHI principal investigators, has led the long-term mortality follow-ups, with her 2017 paper in JAMA the most prominent. She has cried “nonsense” about the original 2002 interpretation of the trial.

Peat’s nutritional and hormonal work was never peer-reviewed. His dissertation and two papers from 1971-1972 in Physiological Chemistry and Physics are the only formal scientific publications he produced. Peer review is corrupt, but the absence of any adversarial process meant that nothing challenged his weaker positions. The mainstream medical establishment did little to engage him, and his reach stayed mostly inside alternative-medicine.

Progesterone: sorting out the claims

Where I disagree most with the Peat orthodoxy is the claim that oral micronized progesterone does not work well.

For women who need progesterone supplementation, Peat recommended progesterone dissolved in vitamin E, applied to the gum mucosa or vaginally. He invented that formulation. He says oral micronized progesterone (Prometrium or its generics) is “subject to first-pass liver metabolism, which reduces potency.”

Katharina Dalton was a British physician who treated severe premenstrual syndrome, postpartum depression, and postpartum psychosis with progesterone starting in the 1950s. Dalton treated thousands of patients over four decades, wrote several books, coined the term “premenstrual syndrome” (or PMS), and testified in British criminal cases where severe premenstrual hormonal collapse was accepted as a mitigating circumstance for violent acts, including at least one murder. Her work is the answer to anyone who claims progesterone’s benefits are speculative. Dalton put progesterone into practice for thousands of women and documented the results decades before the synthetic-progestin controversy obscured the picture.

Oral progesterone has low bioavailability measured against an intravenous baseline, but a 200 mg oral dose still produces peak serum levels of about 38 ng/ml at three hours, well above the 10 to 20 ng/ml range that supports the protective clinical effects. Levels decline overnight, which is fine for a bedtime dose. Vaginal and buccal progesterone reaches measurable serum levels and has been used successfully in the European literature.

Transdermal progesterone creams, by contrast, do not produce sustained blood levels. Dr. Neal Rouzier, a hormone expert who has trained many thousands of physicians, drew blood from himself and his patients after using progesterone creams and found that progesterone levels declined within about an hour. The gold standard in our prescribing community is a sustained blood level, because that is what produces the cardiovascular protection, the bone maintenance, and the symptom relief that hormone therapy is prescribed for. The uterine and ovarian cancer prevention from progesterone is also likely tied to sustained levels.

Progest-E bypasses first-pass liver metabolism to reach the bloodstream. Comparative head-to-head data against oral micronized progesterone are nonexistent. What we have is Peat’s assertion that oral is inferior, set against a vast body of clinical data supporting oral for the endpoints that matter.

The clinical question is: Does the patient feel better, sleep better, and avoid endometrial cancer? The data strongly support the use of oral micronized progesterone.

Endometrial protection is proven. The KEEPS (Kronos Early Estrogen Prevention Study) trial used 200 mg of oral micronized progesterone for 12 days per month alongside estrogen and demonstrated adequate endometrial protection, with no increase in endometrial or breast cancer incidence across the study period. Other studies show breast and uterine cancer reduction. This is the standard many menopausal medicine specialists use today. Neil Rouzier’s group uses continuous daily progesterone, which he believes has a better protective anti-cancer effect on the uterine endometrium.

Sleep is substantially improved. Oral progesterone, because it goes through the liver, produces large amounts of allopregnanolone, a neurosteroid that acts on GABA (gamma-aminobutyric acid) receptors like a gentle sedative. Patients fall asleep and stay asleep. This has transformed my sleep. The “liver metabolism” Peat views as a liability is the source of the benefit for sleep disturbance, the most important symptom most perimenopausal women bring to the doctor.

Old bioavailability numbers are partly an artifact of old methods. The older radioimmunoassays cross-reacted with progesterone metabolites, yielding inflated readings. Modern LC-MS (liquid chromatography-mass spectrometry) methods show the parent compound circulating in the blood is lower than previously thought. A large share of progesterone’s clinical effect is produced by its neuroactive metabolites, not the parent compound, so the LC-MS number understates clinical potency.

Few women have trouble tolerating the oral route’s sedation when it is taken at bedtime, and most of them view it as a plus. If the goal is symptom control for a perimenopausal woman with wrecked sleep, night sweats, and anxiety, oral micronized progesterone at bedtime is superior.

Where Peat is most correct is that bioidentical progesterone, not the synthetics, is protective, anti-inflammatory, antiestrogenic, and radically underprescribed. He was one of the few people in the second half of the 20th century who understood that progesterone and synthetic progestins are not interchangeable. That distinction has saved incalculable numbers of women.

The Women’s Health Initiative: a ruined study

The Women’s Health Initiative was an ideological takedown operation, run from inside the National Institutes of Health (NIH) with the full complicity of the media and silence of most of the researchers involved.

The WHI was launched in 1991 by Bernadine Healy, a cardiologist appointed by George H. W. Bush and the first woman to direct the NIH. Her intent was corrective. Most prior clinical research had been done on men, and women’s health was seriously underfunded. The WHI budget was $625 million, and it was initially considered a good-faith effort.

By 2002, the trial was being run by Jacques Rossouw, a South African cardiologist who was not a neutral investigator. He had publicly called for “a halt to the HRT bandwagon” six years before the study was published. Other principal investigators, with Robert Langer at the forefront, later went on record that the interpretation of the data had been distorted for publicity. Rossouw told Tara Parker-Pope they wanted “high impact” to “change thinking about hormones.”

The study, as designed, had four structural flaws visible before it started:

1. It used Premarin, not bioidentical estradiol.

2. It used medroxyprogesterone acetate, not progesterone.

3. The average participant was 63 years old, more than 12 years past menopause. The “timing hypothesis,” that HRT started early protects the cardiovascular system while HRT started late might harm it, was known to the investigators but was not built into the design.

4. The investigators administered continuous combined therapy rather than cyclic, overriding the natural monthly rhythm of hormone variation. Peat himself had claimed this was critical.

Comment: Again, Dr. Neal Rouzier’s group, which includes me, does not believe cyclic dosing is important for the health of postmenopausal women. Cycling is important for reproduction.

When the data came in, the writing group withheld it from most WHI investigators and from the companies that made the drugs. They held a press conference before the paper was peer-reviewed, and stated that “the adverse effects of estrogen plus progestin applied to all women, irrespective of age, ethnicity, or prior disease status.” This was not what the data showed, and the age-stratified analysis was never released.

The consequences were devastating. Seventy percent of women on HRT stopped within a year of the 2002 announcement. Prescribing fell by half within months and dropped to about a quarter of pre-WHI levels by 2010. Philip Sarrel of Yale estimated that between 18,600 and 91,000 American women died prematurely between 2002 and 2011 because they were denied the cardioprotective and bone-preserving effects of estrogen. Wyeth lost billions on Prempro. Pharmaceutical marketing of compounded bioidentical hormones, which had not been studied in the WHI, filled the void with little oversight and has been largely responsible for the progress made since.

Was this a globalist operation? In the sense of a single, coordinated plot run by the Rockefeller Foundation, I have not found the evidence. It was a case of captured science, where an ideologically committed principal investigator pushed a rushed, misdesigned study into a media blitz to shift clinical practice in a specific direction, and a generation of women suffered because of it. That happens routinely inside the US government science. Look at what the CDC (Centers for Disease Control) did with Covid and what the NIH did with chronic Lyme. Look at what the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) did with glyphosate. The WHI fits the pattern.

An ironic footnote: in April 2025, HHS (Health and Human Services) under RFK Jr. briefly tried to kill WHI funding, then reversed course within days under bipartisan pressure. The WHI is at once a cautionary tale about captured science and an irreplaceable long-term data resource on aging women. I am not sure whether RFK’s instincts were right or wrong on this one. The underlying data, fairly re-analyzed, has continued to produce useful results for 20 years, and cutting it off would be a loss.

For readers who want more, Avrum Bluming and Carol Tavris’s “Estrogen Matters” (2018) is the best account of the WHI debacle. I reviewed it in Hormone Secrets. Peter Attia has an excellent interview with them on his podcast.

Peat’s conflict of interest

In 1984, Peat patented the progesterone-in-tocopherol formulation and licensed it. The patent ultimately became Progest-E, sold through his followers’ websites and small distributors ever since. He also held a 1986 patent on DHEA and other anesthetic steroids for arthritis. These patents created a financial incentive to emphasize the formulations he had developed over competing ones. I cannot prove that this distorted his scientific judgment, but it is the sort of thing to keep track of when you read him on how to deliver progesterone. When Peat said oral micronized progesterone “does not work” and topical vitamin E progesterone is superior, he was selling a product he invented. I do not think this makes him a fraud, but it would be dishonest to pretend the conflict was not there.

For Peat, the conflict does not come close to what we see in mainstream medicine. Most endocrinologists are unwitting salespeople for Synthroid (levothyroxine), whose manufacturer derives $3.5 billion in revenue from the TSH-driven T4-only paradigm. Peat was a small independent theoretician with a tiny independent product. The asymmetry is enormous, and the reason you should still take Peat seriously is that his positions (anti-polyunsaturated-fat, pro-thyroid, pro-carbohydrate, anti-synthetic-progestin) cost him audience and career, and did not gain him either. A bought-off theoretician preaches consensus views. Peat did the opposite. That is evidence, though not proof, that he was calling what he saw.

Peat’s followers amplify his weaker positions

Peat was drawn to fringe theories, sympathetic to Project Blue Beam, UFOlogy, and other frameworks that cannot be discussed in polite scientific company. Much of this is trivial and separates cleanly from his metabolic work. His reliance on anecdote and single animal studies sometimes led him to state things as facts that were not.

He contradicted himself over the course of his career. RationalWiki documents numerous examples of him reversing positions on red light, methylene blue, and DHEA without acknowledgment. He was, by his description, a theoretician, and his output has the virtues and vices of theoretical work.

Mercola picked up Peat’s estrogen mistakes and relayed them to his enormous audience. I do not know what motivates Mercola, but his public biography is now that of a man who joined a cult, had a public psychological breakdown, fell under the influence of a “channeler” named “Bahlon,” and fired much of his company for refusing to submit to the channeler’s authority. I stopped trusting Mercola several years ago. Peat’s estrogen position is the part of his work Mercola has loudly amplified. That is the weakest part, and it has confused the community.

Recap and conclusion

On hypothyroid, Peat is essential. If you or someone you love has unexplained fatigue, weight gain, hair loss, cold intolerance, brain fog, or depression, and your doctor has told you your TSH is “normal,” read Peat’s thyroid article and find a provider who understands desiccated thyroid. Morning temperature and resting pulse cost nothing and tell you more than any blood test.

On carbohydrates, seed oils, and the basic bioenergetic framework, Peat is largely right. The body runs on glucose. Polyunsaturated fats accumulate in tissue, poison mitochondria, and take years to flush out after you change your diet. Saturated fats are stable. Sugar is not the enemy; industrial seed oils and chronic stress are. Eat fruit, drink milk if you tolerate it, use butter, coconut oil, and beef tallow, and avoid corn and canola oil.

On progesterone, Peat is mostly right, with one important caveat. Progesterone, the molecule and not the synthetics, is protective, anti-inflammatory, antiestrogenic, and dramatically underprescribed. Synthetic progestins are not equivalent and should be avoided. The claim that oral micronized progesterone does not work is wrong, because the liver metabolism Peat views as a liability produces the neurosteroid metabolites that deliver the most valuable clinical effect: sleep.

The hardest therapeutic problem in hormone therapy is getting enough hormone inside the body, so in many clinical situations, both oral and topical routes might be used together. For sleep and mood, oral is better. Topical progesterone cream works poorly enough that it should be abandoned except for symptom relief in people who have a superstitious dread of the oral version, or who choose to use both forms together.

On estrogen, Peat was half-right and dangerously overextrapolated. Premarin and medroxyprogesterone are toxic. Bioidentical estradiol, in physiologic replacement doses, started within the menopausal window, balanced with progesterone and often testosterone, is safe and life-enhancing for most women who use it. Peat did not see enough patients to appreciate the difference between bioidentical and synthetic hormones, and his followers amplified the error. Avrum Bluming and JoAnn Manson have the data on this.

On the WHI, Peat was gesturing at a scandal. The study was captured science run by an ideologically committed principal investigator who wanted “high impact” and got it at the cost of tens of thousands of American women’s lives. Peat’s suspicion of the whole thing was justified, even if his interpretive framework for why it happened was fuzzy.

On peripheral issues like UFOs, serotonin as a pure villain, and cholesterol as harmless at any level, Peat was unreliable. His followers have amplified the unreliability.

Peat was, in the end, a figure much like Broda Barnes, Hans Selye, Linus Pauling, Weston Price, and Denis Burkitt. An independent mind who worked largely outside the mainstream, published enormously, was right about more than he was wrong about, and left a body of work that rewards careful reading and careful filtering. He was not a prophet or a fraud. He was a good theoretician who understood mitochondria before most people had heard of them. If I were still in practice, my prescribing would change in small ways after this review. I would pay more attention to thyroid temperature data and give more aggressive carbohydrate and dairy advice for perimenopausal patients with 3 a.m. awakenings.

Three things worth repeating

The most common failure in hormone therapy is the prescriber giving too little, the patient taking too little, or both. Underdosing fails the woman more often than any side effect.

Within the safety range set by her clinician, the patient should turn the dial herself. She has the symptoms; she has the data that the lab cannot see.

Once dosing has settled, a blood level confirms that cardiovascular and bone protection are doing their work and indicates the next adjustment when a patient is not responding.

Many thanks to Jane, who supplied references and perspectives, and who sent me on this path to learn more about Ray Peat.

Where to obtain hormones without a prescription

What follows is informational. Hormones sold without a prescription move through grey-market channels, customs seizures happen, and vendors come and go. None of it replaces a licensed provider when one is accessible. The detail is here because readers have asked for it, and because the alternative, silence, leaves people at the mercy of whatever vendor ranks first on Google.

T3 (liothyronine)

Loti Labs sells 100 mcg/mL liquid in 30 mL bottles at about $38, with third-party testing and same-day US shipping. Products ship as “research use only,” so registration as a researcher on the site is required. For tablets, AllDayChemist ships generic liothyronine from India without a prescription, and Mexican pharmacies stock Cynomel (Sanofi, 25 mcg) over-the-counter. The FDA has stated it will not prosecute personal importation of small quantities.

Natural desiccated thyroid (NDT)

Two Thai brands, both porcine and both registered with the Thai FDA, ship worldwide without a prescription. Thyroid-S (Sriprasit Pharma) delivers 38 mcg T4 and 9 mcg T3 per 60 mg tablet, identical in ratio to Armour. Thyroids.shop sells 500-tablet bottles for about $170 shipped. Dose at 2 grains (two tablets) daily, split between morning and early afternoon to keep the T3 from interfering with sleep. Thiroyd by Greater Pharma is the porcine backup when Thyroid-S is out of stock; supply has come and gone over the years.

US bovine supplements are legal without a prescription, but hormone content is not standardized; JAMA flagged the variability decades ago. The Thai pharmaceuticals are the reliable choice.

Estradiol

For oral and transdermal (not recommended except for vaginal) estradiol, AllDayChemist (India), Inhousepharmacy.vu (Vanuatu), and IsraelPharm all ship worldwide without a prescription, carrying Progynova, Estrofem, Vagifem, and generics.

For injectable estradiol, the DIY HRT community, built to serve the trans population, compounds estradiol valerate, cypionate, and enanthate in oil. AstroVials is the reference vendor: EU-based, cryptocurrency payment, autoclave-sterilized, with one free resend on seized packages. DIYHRT.wiki and r/TransDIY track the active roster as vendors rotate.

Bulk powder (CAS 50-28-2) is available from Chinese API wholesalers. I would flag this route plainly as a legal and safety liability. Estrogens are not controlled substances in most countries, so legal risk on the finished-product routes is minimal.

Micronized progesterone

The cleanest path is Utrogestan (Besins Healthcare, France), molecularly identical to Prometrium, the proprietary pharma progesterone. Inhousepharmacy.vu ships 100 mg capsules at about $1.57 each, AllDayChemist stocks Susten 200 (the Indian equivalent), and Mexican chain pharmacies stock Utrogestan 100 mg and 200 mg over the counter. OTC transdermal creams (Emerita ProGest, Life-Flo Progesta-Care) are legal in all US states but produce erratic, low serum levels; they work for mild supplementation, not replacement.

The DIY powder route is also open. Lab Alley sells USP-grade micronized progesterone powder, yam-sourced, with 97-103% purity, direct to consumers. One gram equals ten 100 mg doses, so a 100 g jar covers roughly a year. A jeweler’s milligram scale at $30 gives accurate dosing, and size 0 gelatin caps filled with powder suspended in MCT or olive oil approximate commercial softgel pharmacokinetics. The oil carrier matters; dry powder has poor bioavailability.

Testosterone

Testosterone is Schedule III under the Controlled Substances Act, which makes importation legally riskier than the other hormones listed here. Much of the testosterone used in the United States is obtained through the grey market, sold at gyms and through fitness networks, with bodybuilders checking serum levels to confirm potency and titration. The market is vast, the batch-verification culture is mature, and quality ranges from pharmaceutical-grade to counterfeit.

Mexican chain pharmacies (Farmacias Guadalajara, Benavides, Similares, Costco Mexico, and Walmart Mexico) sell injectable testosterone without a prescription; Sostenon 250 (Organon, four-ester blend) and Primoteston Depot (Bayer, enanthate) are the reliable products. The FDA personal importation policy allows up to a 90-day supply to continue treatment.

Research-chemical liquid suppliers (Loti Labs, Behemoth Labz, Peptide Sciences) list testosterone enanthate, cypionate, and propionate at 200 to 250 mg/mL under “research use only” language; Schedule III status keeps this grey-legal at best, and listings come and go with enforcement pressure. EU DIY HRT vendors ship finished injectables alongside estradiol, cryptocurrency only. Underground labs on forums like Meso-Rx are the highest-legal-risk route; the bodybuilding community verifies batches through independent testing services like Janoshik.

Human Growth Hormone (HGH)

This is not a scheduled drug, so importing it is no more legally risky than progesterone. However, the problem with growth hormone is that it is so expensive that it is frequently counterfeited. If you can afford it, you are better off going to a prescribing physician inside the United States and getting it that way.

Unfortunately, this is not a perfect solution because gray-market pharmaceuticals flow back and forth among legitimate US compounding pharmacies, wholesale pharmacies, and retail pharmacies. Catherine Eban’s Bottle of Lies implies that the US drug distribution is one big gray market, just like the international one, only somewhat more reliable.

Dosing for hormone replacement or longevity typically ranges from 0.3 to 1 mg/day (1 to 3 IU/day), often on a 5-day-on, 2-day-off schedule. The IGF-1 blood test target in this protocol is high-normal for a younger reference range, generally 200 to 350 ng/mL. This produces meaningful effects on body composition, sleep architecture, and recovery without pushing IGF-1 into the supraphysiologic range, where the safety signal becomes concerning.

Norditropin and Omnitropin come in convenient pens for easy administration. The former requires no refrigeration, while the latter is heat-sensitive and half the price.

“Blue’s clues” about starting doses for hormone replacement

Read Hormone Secrets and see a knowledgeable provider for advice on these issues, but the following will give you an idea of what to do.

Oral estradiol for women is typically 1 to 2.5 mg capsules every morning.

Testosterone injectable for women is 1/10 to 2/10 of a 200-250 mg per cc oil preparation injected into fat. Testosterone cypionate or enanthate is used. The same drug for men is 1 cc, divided into one or two doses, injected into the muscle or sometimes fat over the course of a week.

Testosterone cream is more convenient and works as well for women as injectable. Twice-weekly dosing produces sustained levels. The creams are 25 to 50 mg per cc for women, with instructions to apply a quarter or half a cc several times a week. For men, the creams are 200 mg per cc, and the doses are 1 to 2 cc applied to the scrotal area twice a day, a lot more.

Oral micronized progesterone for women ranges from 50 to 800 mg at bedtime. For men, the dose is 50 to 400 mg at bedtime. These doses are based on symptom relief, and they are harmless. For more details on DHEA and Pregnenolone, see Hormone Secrets.

Monitor yourself and adjust dosing of everything based on how you feel. This is more important than blood levels or what the doctor says. The most typical mistake is not taking enough.

Disclaimers

None of the above is legal advice. Personal importation of prescription hormones occupies a grey zone, and Schedule III controlled substances carry more legal risk than the rest. Hormone therapy is straightforward when managed by an experienced provider. Find one if you can; WorldLinkMedical.com lists physicians trained in the Rouzier protocols. If you go it alone, get baseline blood work, start at the low end of the dose range, retest at eight to twelve weeks, and titrate primarily on how you feel rather than on numbers.

None of this is medical advice, and I am not responsible for your care. Please consult an experienced provider if you find one. Good luck on that one.

My editors did the heavy lifting on this post. You met Jim Arnold again in the introduction, and my attorney friend Elizabeth Cronin also provided counsel.

Selected references

Ray Peat, “Thyroid: Therapies, Confusion, and Fraud” (2006).

Ray Peat, “Not the ‘female hormone,’ but the shock hormone”.

Ray Peat, “Preventing and treating cancer with progesterone”.

Avrum Bluming and Carol Tavris, Estrogen Matters (Little, Brown, 2018).

Philip M. Sarrel et al., “The mortality toll of estrogen avoidance: an analysis of excess deaths among hysterectomized women aged 50 to 59 years”, American Journal of Public Health 103, no. 9 (2013).

JoAnn E. Manson et al., “Menopausal Hormone Therapy and Long-term All-Cause and Cause-Specific Mortality: The Women’s Health Initiative Randomized Trials”, JAMA (2017).

Katharina Dalton, Once a Month (multiple editions); Depression After Childbirth.

Derrick Lonsdale and Chandler Marrs, Thiamine Deficiency Disease, Dysautonomia, and High Calorie Malnutrition(Academic Press, 2017).

My book, Hormone Secrets. Free download (covers physiologic blood-level targets, dosing, and clinical protocols in detail).

The Ray Peat complete collection at dokumen.pub.

If you took nothing else from this essay, take this: never let a gynecologist cut out your ovaries. Even after menopause, the ovaries make hormones that help you. Surgeons sell the procedure as a way to drop ovarian cancer risk to zero. The reasoning is technically true but clinically retarded. Ovarian cancer is rare. The hormones the ovaries provide are critical..

Of course, men need hormone treatment as well after their “andropause”. Their symptoms are often much less dramatic because they don’t undergo a period where their hormones crash to zero or virtually zero. Thanks for sharing, and thanks for considering a paid subscription. This one was days and days of work.

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  • Avatar Atlandea says:

    great article. I am 70 years old and have been supplementing with DHEA for maybe 20 years. I am surprised you didn’t spend more time on DHEA and it’s benefits. I learned about it from Stephen Cherniske.

    I have been supplementing with progesterone topically for many years. Interesting that your opinion is negative on that.

    One thing I learned is that after doing hormone therapy after becoming menopausal 20 years ago is that if one supplements with hormones your body stops producing it naturally. This seems like important info for all the ‘transgender wannabe’s’ to know.

    Having said all that I am not on any prescribed drugs, am healthy even while enduring extreme stress care giving for my now late husband, play pickleball and golf ect….

    I really enjoy your health articles. Best, Teresa

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      Topical progesterone is not strong enough to produce all the positive effects, and you should ideally take oral progesterone at doses of roughly 200 mg a day or more. DHEA is harmless and can be used in multi 100 mg doses. It has wondrous effects on arthritis for seniors. The standard doses are lower than that, however.

  • Avatar Michelle Herman says:

    like most medical specialties, I’ve now become disappointed with the gyno world too. The damage done to all of us is really incalculable as is the pain and suffering.

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      Unbekoming has done multiple takedowns of the gynecology and obstetrics world that are worth reading, especially if you have that equipment.

  • Avatar Frontera Lupita says:

    I am a 73 year old woman. Never had a child (did have an ectopic pregnancy and one u2018terminated pregnancyu2019), lost a u2018tubeu2019 with the ectopic pregnancy, then had a tubal ligation a few years later. All my reproductive organs are intact and I plan on keeping it that way.

    I have been on BioIdentical HRT (from a compounding pharmacy) for over 24 years. A doctor who specialized in hormone replacement medicine for men & women prescribed it years ago. He also was into thyroid health, and through the temperature and pulse method he determined I had hypothyroidism, and later a blood test confirmed I have Hashimotos. I take 90 mg NP Thyroid daily. I have been taking the natural desiccated thyroid for 24 years as well.

    I have not been to a gynecologist for over 24 years!

    I feel the BioIdentical HRT keeps me sane, my body feels good, and I still have sexual desire (with the right partner.) I will never give them up! My NP prescribes my HRT as well as my NP Thyroid.

    I have also declined all diagnostic testing, like mammograms, colonoscopies, bone density tests and what have you for a few years now. As well as ALL vaccines and shots.

    • Avatar Carolyn Gibb says:

      I’m the same…about 25 years ago saw a brilliant functional doc. I’m 85 this week! If I had a partner I could be sexually active….But my wonderful man died and I like being alone.

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      From those who listen, I have heard many stories like this. Thank you for contributing.

  • Avatar bonafidecat says:

    Besides progesterone in men, are there any other areas where Dr. Rouzier is to be ignored?

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      I have never found one, and I have a complete essay about progesterone and men coming up.

      • Avatar bonafidecat says:

        In your article you mention women who wake up at 3AM due to a cortisol problem. This describes my 59 year old wife who has been on HRT for 2-3 years with different providers. No relief. Do you address this in Hormone Secrets? She’s getting desperate.

        As for World Link Medical, I think it is a bit of a mixed bag.

      • Avatar Maha says:

        I am looking forward to reading it.

    • Avatar Noa Beau says:

      If it’s OK to ask – why do you say this? I didn’t notice anything in Dr Rouzier’s book that should not be trusted. Everything seems consistent with what Robert is saying

  • Avatar cot sabaca says:

    “Glucose is the prefered fuel”

    I switched to carnivore for 3 years , should I go back to eating ice cream?

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      This Ray Peat thing about glucose is questionable. If I endorsed it in the essay, I was mistaken.

  • Avatar Teresa says:

    The link for NDT, Thyroids.shop, doesnu2019t seem to be working uD83DuDE41.

  • Avatar Noa Beau says:

    Robert, it’s as if you read my mind! I so wanted to see your take on Ray Peat for a while now. I’m looking forward to reading your post as soon as I can.

  • Avatar Butterfly2510 says:

    Great info. And, I have hashimotos and I pay $100/month for 30 pills of armour! I have been searching for years for a cure but now that I can get 500 pills for $170?!! I love you Dr. Yoho!! You just saved me $1400 over the course of 16 months!! Screw pHARMA!!!!

  • Avatar Noa Beau says:

    If a man’s testosterone has been driven down to zero because of prostate cancer treatments , and in addition his thyroid function is suboptimal (a little hypothyroid), will supplementation with natural desiccated thyroid drive his testosterone up, and subsequently raise his PSA and worsen the cancer? (Thyroid increases DHEA, DHEA converts into testosterone, if I am not mistaken)

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      Read Hormone Secrets for a more comprehensive discussion about this. Estrogen therapy for metastatic prostate cancer is effective and doesn’t carry the aggravating side effects of androgen deprivation.

      • Avatar Noa Beau says:

        Thanks Robert. I read it more than once, I swear. It’s just that a text by Peat on prostate cancer that I read a month ago scared me. (He says both natural and lab-made estrogen causes prostate cancer)

  • Avatar pretty-red, old guy says:

    Hey Doc, it has been a while since I visited your SS. I have only partially gone through this and got to this point and had to laugh:

    “Arguing with them about whether they are thirsty is like arguing with Germans. You just piss everyone off. (Since I am German, I get a pass on this.)”

    As I am also half German, I can relate. Last week I was in to see a local GP about a tick bite and the nurse checking my BP asked one of their standard inane questions to a patient, me. “Do you feel SAFE in your home?” Deadpanning her I replied: “yeah, I feel fine but do you understand how you lose all credibility asking that to any guy? Have you EVER had a guy say. . . no?(She admitted, no she hadn’t.)

    Further I said: “you know you only piss a guy off saying something like that.”

    I failed to point out I am both German AND Irish!

    regardless, I should not get a pass. . . should have been nicer . . .

    • Avatar Dave aka Geezermann says:

      I also am half German and the other half Irish and English. Those GP’s and Nurse Practitioners are asking those absurd questions because of the protocol they are forced to follow. It is best to not even answer them.

    • Avatar Maha says:

      My PCP had me fill out a form asking among other questions, “do you have any guns in your home…and how are they stored”. I just wrote across the form “It’s not your business.” (If I ever gave that form to any of my patients–loggers, fishermen, farmers, mechanics–I’d have been laughed out of town.)

    • Avatar Me says:

      Hard to believe the crazy crap they:re coming up with. I told them I wasn’t there for a cognitive assessment. (I didn’t add “go away” though, bc I needed their cooperation on what I WAS there for.

  • Avatar Paul D says:

    I followed Ray Peat’s work from over 15 years ago long before his curious elevation to nutritional sainthood. Over the years I learned that more often then not his theories were wrong. There are literally dozens on anecdotes he commonly repeated which were on their face patently false. Many of them were clear misinformation, whether intentional or naive, they were so frequent and emphasized that it became utterly impossible to regard him in good faith. There are many articles and even videos made going into detail regarding his misinformation. He had a few useful insights such as NDT which by no means were his discovery. Wildly dishonest claims such as growing inches taller from mega-doses of DHEA, and the health value of eating tubs of ice cream nightly should tip any true student of health off to his wildly unreliable claims.

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      I did not get into it this deeply, but this is consistent with my findings. Thank you for contributing.

  • Avatar Laurie Rigg says:

    I LOVE Dr Neal Rouzier! I have taken his 4 part course on Optimizing hormones TWICE sunce 2014, and attended several Beyond Hormone seminars over the years.

    Small world!!

  • Avatar LisaR says:

    Iu2019m curious what women who have had their uterus and ovaries removed due to BRCA cancers can safely take in terms of bioidentical hormones? My friend in this situation is offered no hormones from her conventional team. Sheu2019s suffered through very poor sleep, hot flashes and increased anxiety. They offered her Zoloft! She declined that. I have another friend in her mid forties who had her uterus and ovaries removed due to her BRCA status and strong family history of breast cancer, and she had to seek out hormonal help herself within conventional care. No one was encouraging it. She saw the one u201Cexpertu201D gynecologist in our insurance network who wanted her to have sex daily with her husband to help her lack of hormones. My friend had to convince her to give her hormones. She relunctantly gave her a conventional estrogen patch. Now there is a shortage of them in the medium dose range she needs and has only been offered the low dose estrogen patch. So now she is not sleeping well and her hot flashes have increased with no help from her dr to find alternative estrogen. I wonder if she too could benefit from additional hormones like progesterone etc. but know she wonu2019t be offered those within the insurance network.

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      I haven’t done a full analysis, but the BRCA thing seems like a false narrative to me. The Angela Jolie double mastectomy seemed particularly pitiful to me. Certainly, there’s no harm in using testosterone and progesterone in this situation, for they decrease the risk of dying from breast cancer and are used to treat breast cancer. We also have many treatments for breast cancer now that are not mainstream, so you have that to fall back on.

  • Avatar Jelleke Wierenga says:

    Be careful with DHEA. It might perk you up, but also cause brooding volcanoes under your skin, also known as systic acne. Happened to me.

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      This is not universal, and many people find that a bit of acne is a small price to pay for improved performance and health.

  • Avatar Steph S says:

    Great article. The WHI studyu2019s wrongful interpretation did damage and shorten so many womenu2019s lives! The destruction is still occurring with many doctors refusing to prescribe hormones to their patients. Thank you for mentioning world link medical as it was the place I looked to find my current hormone practitioner. Iu2019m on estradiol, progesterone and testosterone and donu2019t know where I would be without that help. It took me 2.5 years after menopause to find someone who would prescribe therapeutic and physiological levels of hormones and it should never have taken that long to find someone. The WHI is to blame for the reluctance of doctors to prescribe. Hope that now bioidentical hormone replacement and knowledge will gain traction and become common practice as the harm from the WHI destroyed generations.

  • Avatar easeandgrace says:

    Dr. Yoho, i have been following you for a while and appreciate all of your efforts. You mentioned a menopausal window. I was thrown into early menopause 19 years ago from having my left ovary and fallopian tube removed. I was only 39. Now at 58, i have sleep problems, weight gain that won’t budge, low energy and libido…all new and frustrating. Are you saying if I am more than 10 years post menopausal, hrt will not benefit me?

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      If it were me, I would get on testosterone, estrogen, and progesterone, and I would consider thyroid if I could find somebody to help manage me. You can figure it out yourself if you want to look at stopthethyroidinsanity.com, but this requires some effort. I would regard all of your problems as hormonal deficiency until proven otherwise. When an ovary is removed, it often damages the vasculature and cuts off your hormone supplies.

      • Avatar Small Town Gypsy says:

        I tried the link “stopthethyroidinsanity.com” and it was not a valid address. I tried “stopthethyroidmadness.com” and it worked. Janie Bowthorpe also has 2 very good books.

  • Avatar Me says:

    Doing a deep dive on Ray Peat and Estrogen and never once addressing the levels in tissues vs blood is an interesting take. Ask women to test Estradiol (E2), Estrone (E1), and Estriol (E3) via hair or toenail tissue analysis and you might get wildly different numbers vs just Estradiol circulating in the blood on any given day. In aging, menopause, or metabolic stress, blood Estradiol can drop or look u201Clow/normal,u201D while tissue levels stay high or even increase due to local production (aromatase activity in fat, skin, breast, etc.). Without addressing tissue levels, you could be taking additional bioidenticals when you are already Estrogen dominant.

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      My opinion after a decade of treating patients and 2,000 hours of total time invested is that this estrogen-dominant thing should be assessed by symptomatology rather than worrying about lab results. Women aren’t going to take something that doesn’t make them feel good anyway.

  • Avatar sglenn says:

    This is what a so called “research” article looks like when the author relies on AI to generate it. AI is the accumulation of ALL the information available on line. The Powers that Be have an agenda and can get AI to vomit up whatever they prefer the gullible public to swallow and then repeat on line ad infinitum. The author did not do his due diligence when writing this piece. This article is a prime example of the recital of AI generated propaganda.

    The sabotage of Ray Peat’s legacy since his death has been breathtaking to watch and quite the eye opener. Ray Peat saved my life. Twice. Email exchanges happened. Valuable advice was given. For Free. I am incensed by this hit piece.

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      Anyone who doesn’t work with AI in their writing today is behind the times, and this piece took 30 to 40 hours of my writing, editing, and analysis time. Authors who use AI indiscriminately without any background get garbage-in, garbage-out results. That is true. My background in this field is 2,000 hours, however, and I used all my skills. I thought my criticism of Peat was judiciously framed, and I could have done a real exposu00E9 that would have looked a lot worse.

  • Avatar Flatulus Maximus says:

    I never expected to find a possible key to my Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis contained in an article on women’s hormonal issues! My MD hasn’t been much help, as you can probably imagine. He prescribed Synthroid, and will not discuss naturally desiccated thyroid meds. He did offer a referral to an endocrinologist, but I declined after reading an earlier edition of Hormone Secrets and some of Dr. Brownstein’s books. So I’ve been taking the synthetic T4, and supplementing with selenium, black seed oil, and Iodorol. My TSH, T4, and T3 numbers are all in the “normal” range now, but my thyroid antibodies remain elevated. I’ve been debating trying desiccated bovine hormone (or something like Pure Encapsulations T3), but was wondering if I should discontinue the Synthroid. Is it safe or recommended to take both?

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      If it were me, I would discontinue the Synthroid.

      • Avatar Flatulus Maximus says:

        Do you have a preference for either the bovine product or the Pure Encapsulations T3?

        • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

          If it was me, I would always start with bovine or porcine thyroid because it lasts much longer, probably 36 hours. The T3 has a shorter half-life that can be layered on top of that if you need more.

  • Avatar David Pare says:

    Just randomly – niacin (the flush version) can raise growth hormone, but you have to take it on an empty stomach, and then wait 4 hours before you eat again. Article below, followed by the key chart showing the growth hormone pulse – initially a small blip, then a big pulse peaking after 4 hours. Chart was originally in the “Ward Dean” article, but it has been removed. I routinely take niacin for growth hormone, and it has worked well for me.

    Good news: niacin is really cheap – like 10 cents per 500mg capsule. Bad news: you get the flush, which makes your skin turn red, and that scares some people. I don’t mind since I’m used to it by now. I suspect “no flush” niacin won’t create growth hormone.

    https://www.warddeanmd.com/the-cholesterol-wars-champion-can-also-raise-growth-hormone/

    The practical take-home lesson of this study is that anyone using niacin as a growth hormone stimulant should take it on an empty stomach (glucose and insulin also inhibit growth hormone, as well as fatty acids).

    https://purepowernutrition.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Niacin-Hgh-res.jpg

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      I am on injectable growth hormone now. This is harmless, highly beneficial and rarely causes any side effects, but it is pricey.

      • Avatar sehalmiller (null) says:

        Magic word expensive I take niacin but I was not aware until I read above post that taking it on an empty stomach is a four hour window I use the powder usually from bulk supplements I’ll have to read up on that. I can’t afford the IGHuD83DuDE48 I know this is five days but I always come back and reread post and Look for your replies

  • Avatar Chris Curley says:

    So for my perimenopausal wife who is waking at 3 am I should tell her to eat more carbs and dairy??

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      Work her progesterone up to whatever it takes to make her sleep. She can take 800 mg if that is necessary. It is harmless and it prevents uterine, breast, and cervical cancer.

  • Avatar Dave aka Geezermann says:

    I never considered the possibility that I might need hormone treatment. I am 74, and when I was younger I had hyperactive thyroidism. I had a lot of energy and always moved fast. Since my issues with Shingles in 2020, and whatever caused my lung and breathing issues in 2021, I am easily exhausted by almost any physical activity. And my daily blood pressure averages about 90/70, which is low. Would taking a testosterone “booster” help? The ones I see on Amazon are just supplements, not actual testosterone. Or perhaps a DHEA supplement.

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      You can buy DHEA over-the-counter, which often is very helpful in someone who’s never been on testosterone. If you want more of a boost, consider seeing somebody and getting testosterone injectable or cream.

  • Avatar Ellen Kirwan says:

    I am a 78 yo woman. On Bioidentical HRT since menopause when my sex drive fell through the floor! I still like and have sex often and I attribute this to my hormone therapy. I have Biest and testosterone cream and progesterone capsules all from compound pharmacy. I still have all of my lady parts and have had 3 vaginal births.

    I want to add that since my last birthday 1.5 weeks ago, I decided to identify as 68 (which is still old!) I just can’t wrap my head around 78. I play pickleball, golf, water volleyball, cards, and am an artist.

    I have been following Peat but not a zealot since my gut just told me that estrogen can’t be that bad. I still follow Mercola because I think he still has a lot to offer; I just take a hard pass on the estrogen bandwagon.

    I’ve been on Thyroid meds for years also. Taking small amount T4 (levothyroxine) and 40mcg T3 (liothyronine) spread throughout the day. Sometimes my temp is up and sometimes not. I think I will try some of the natural thyroid that you mention.

    Thank you for this great article!

  • Avatar Small Town Gypsy says:

    “For oral and transdermal (not recommended except for vaginal) estradiol,…” I’m curious as to why you do not recommend transdermal estradiol? I’m on transdermal patches (1mg biweekly) and have been doing very well on them for the past 2.5 years. I thought that oral was not the best form due to 1st pass by the liver. I’d like some more education on this please and thank you!

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      Transdermal estradiol relieves symptoms effectively but does not have as many positive effects on the heart as oral estradiol. If you want to use the two together, that’s fine, but oral estradiol is optimal.

  • Avatar Alisa Walterhoefer says:

    I am 64 and have been on HRT for years. Recently using 1mg estradiol gel topically, testosterone gel topically and progesterone 150 mg troche at bedtime. I feel the estradiol makes me retain fluid and my blood levels are low. It seems I canu2019t raise my estrogen without negative side effects. Why? My doctor said Iu2019m the only one in her practice with this problem. I have symptoms of low estrogen like body and joint aches. Thoughts?

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      You need to take more progesterone orally. The troches are not as effective. Start with 100 mg and work up from there. 200 mg is the most typical dose. However, much higher doses are fine for some people.

  • Avatar sehalmiller (null) says:

    what an outstanding article I don’t know how you do it just when I think I’ve read the best article you come out with another one and then another one I share your substack articles and save them all thank you so much

  • Avatar Maha says:

    Thank you, Robert for this great overview. The research field is still filled with automatons. I was just reading a paper by Lehmann, J., Lin, H., Zhang, Z. et al. The mechanosensitive adhesion G protein-coupled receptor 133 (GPR133/ADGRD1) enhances bone formation. Sig Transduct Target Ther 10, 199 (2025). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41392-025-02291-y and as I was reading it I was waiting to hear how all the elements they are currently studying in normal and knockout mice remained governed by HORMONES, and the first mention was in the introduction: “Current therapies often focus on vitamin D and/or calcium supplementation, and more specific pharmacological treatments are associated with severe side effects. For example, postmenopausal estrogen therapy increases the risk of cancer and thrombosis…” So, 20 researchers, working worldwide, and none of them could see fit to strike a misleading statement like that. I assumed it was a Pharma funded project, but the there was no financial interests declared.

    We have to continue to live in a parallel world, away from these megalomaniacs.

  • Avatar Randy says:

    u201CThe critical [thyroid] measure is T3, not TSH or T4u201D

    When was a young buck, I mostly worked for companies that were too small to provide medical insurance. Private insurance was outrageously expensive, so I took the calculated risk that young people donu2019t usually have huge medical bills, and I went without coverage for decades. But to track my health, I got Life Extensionu2019s u201CComprehensive (now called u201CEliteu201D) Male Panelu201D every year during their annual blood test sale:

    https://www.lifeextension.com/sales/lab-tests#male-female

    The strategy was that if a major health problem cropped up, I could sign up for private health insurance without having a DIAGNOSIS of a major health problem that the insurance company could exclude as a u201Cpre-existing condition.u201D The strategy worked, because except for a few years that my wifeu2019s employer provided spousal coverage, I had none until I hit Medicare age.

    To circle back to the opening quote, the LE male panel included TSH, T3, and T4, which were always within the normal range. After 30 years of normal thyroid values, I wasnu2019t concerned that my Medicare annual wellness check did not include a thyroid test.

    In 2016 an ENT discovered a small growth on my vocal cord, which he removed, which turned out to be cancer. Six weeks of radiation followed. (In retrospect, the oncologist was WAY too aggressive at nuking my throat. Vocal cords have neither a blood supply nor a lymph supply, so thereu2019s no way for a vocal cord cancer to u201Ctravel.u201D But pre-COVID, while skeptical of the medical establishment, I was not openly hostile to it, as I am today.)

    Unfortunately, a number of years passed before I suspected my radiation treatments damaged my thyroid. Neither my PCP nor ENT had raised the possibility. A couple of years ago I ordered a thyroid test from LE that showed the following:

    T4: 2.1 (less than half of the bottom of the normal range of 4.5 to 12)

    Free T3: 1.8 (below the normal range of 2.2 to 12.0)

    TSH: 46.7 (more than 10X the TOP of the normal range of 0.45 to 4.5 u2014 egad!)

    In other words, my TSH was flogging my thyroid like a dead horse, trying to stimulate more production, but the thyroid was not responding, likely because it had been burnt to a crisp by the radiation.

    I am now on levothyroxine, being titrated by my new PCP, a D.O. I asked to be started on Armour Thyroid, but I discovered it has been discontinued. Until reading this report, I did not know the names and sources of alternate (regulated) desiccated thyroid brands, and I was not about to use the (poorly controlled) Amazon offerings, so I accepted the synthetic version. I will switch to bioidentical thyroid ASAP. Thank you for this information, Dr Yoho!

    • Avatar Laurie Rigg says:

      Randy, your numbers indicate extreme hypothyroidism. Levothyroxine is not the best option for thyroid replacement for most people. Dr Yoho mentioned earlier that he uses NP Thyroid with a small dose of Cytomel, which is the active thyroid hormone, T3.

      You could look on line for a World Link Medical certified practitioner near where you live.

      Regarding Cytomel, from my own personal experience, only use the name brand, if you go this route. Generic T3 aka liiothyronine is absolutely not as effective as the name brand. A 5mcg tablet of Cytomel costs the same as a 25mcg tablet, so I recommended to patients that they ask their Dr for a prescription for 25mcg tablets and cut them in half or quarters (mcg means microgram) I believe that there are fewer excipients in the larger dose, as well. I LOVE Cytomel. Discovered it in Dr Lee Vliet’s book “It’s My Ovaries Stupid” in 2003, and have been taking 25-50 mcg daily ever since. Your situation may be a little more complicated than most because of the aggressive radiation you had.

      Blessings to you!

      • Avatar Randy says:

        Thank you, Laurie, for your thoughtful and comprehensive reply. I kick myself (and my PCP and ENT) that several years passed before I realized the radiationu2019s collateral damage to my thyroid. After my lab test, I wanted to take Armour thyroid, but since it was being discontinued, I settled for the synthetic. Better than nothing, I reasoned, but now that I read Dr Yohou2019s promo of Thyroid-S from Thailand, I have just ordered a 500 tab supply.

        Thank you especially for your Cytomel recommendation. Most generics are u201Cas good asu201D the name brand, but some are not. I found that generic Flexeril is not nearly as effective as the brand. It usually has to do with the genericu2019s binder or release characteristics, not the active ingredient itself, which is tightly controlled.

        Thanks again and may God richly bless you!

  • Avatar Jeff Bell says:

    Since you mention thyroid in the article quite a bit, I would like to recommend a very thorough, and I think useful book on the subject: “The Thyroid Debacle” by Dr. Eric Balcavage and Dr. Kelly Halderman. I do not have any real training in thyroid health or care. So when I began having what I suspected were thyroid issues, a colleague recommended this book. I was able to study it and solve my problem after several frustrating years of following the recommendations of so-called experts with disappointing results.

    I hope this helps those who read this comment and may need help with restoring this crucial system to healthy function.

  • Avatar Jeff Bell says:

    To me, this article does NOT seem like a “hit piece.” Rather, I read it as an attempt to correct a few crucial things that the author believes that Ray Peat got wrong. The author clearly gives credit and acknowledges what Ray Peat got right, and then respectfully, but honestly points out what he thinks Ray Peat got wrong.

    In my work, I write a great deal. I hope I get most of it right. I certainly do my best. But I also would be a fool not to acknowledge that I most certainly get some of it wrong.

    The collective community of practitioners, researchers, and healers are always learning more. (One of my very first teachers made me promise to retire if a day ever came when I thought I knew it all.)

    No question that Albert Einstein was a true giant in the area of physics. Yet, the most current quantum physics research shows that he got some of it wrong. I think if we were able to ask him, he would affirm that we should point out what we think he got wrong. That is a way to respect the legacy, with honesty. It is also a way that the collective wisdom increases over time.

    BTW, for the last few months, I have started using AI to help me find the best expressed research and to improve the quality of my writing so that it is easier for my readers to wade through often complicated topics that I write about. Using AI in this way also saves me some time. This allows me to contribute more. So, what is wrong with that?

  • Avatar Jeff Bell says:

    Thanks for a great article. Both the information in it and the discussions and inquiry points that it prompts are valuable and fill a real void, even in the so-called “alternative health sphere.”

    I have a question for you: I was taught that relying on blood testing for reproductive hormones was generally a mistake. The problem is that blood has lots of organic molecules in it, and these hormones tend to bind to those molecules, rendering them more or less unavailable. (Testosterone is an exception because the labs that perform the actual assays have the means to distinguish free testosterone and bound testosterone, although unless the ordering practitioner knows to aks for the free testosterone level, it is usually not reported.) In contrast, saliva has almost no organic molecules, so saliva testing gives you more of a “what you see is what you get” data set to work from.

    I was taught by Dr. John R. Lee, MD and David Zava. Both were adamant that saliva testing by used, and that we should test before adjusting. Then, based on the testing, we could use physiologic doses of bioidentical hormones.

    Also, if you are concerned about either the potential growth of existing cancers or preventing cancers, then the ratio of progesterone to estradiol is crucial.

    BTW, this is not just important for women. Men, particularly past about age 45 to 50, are at very high risk of BPH (enlarged prostate, which can be a nightmare to live with) if that ratio is off and is skewed towards estrogen dominance.

    This overall approach has consistently worked well in all the years I have been applying it.

    BTW, the typical test panel I use is the “Complete Hormone Profile”, consisting of the following analytes (all from saliva samples)

    Estradiol (E2)

    Progesterone

    Testosterone

    DHEA

    Cortisol (early morning)

    Cortisol (noon)

    Cortisol (late afternoon or early evening)

    Cortisol (just before bed)

    Your thoughts and comments?

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      Saliva testing varies widely, and I don’t think it’s very useful. Serum testing is the gold standard. My training with Dr. Rozier and my clinical experience backs this up.

      • Avatar Jeff Bell says:

        If you use serum testing, how do you distinguish free estradiol from bound estradiol and I have the same question pertaining to progesterone?

        I know that serum testing is the gold standard. I used it for my first several years, until I was lucky enough to run into Dr. John Lee, MD and David Zava, Ph.D. and learn their methods.

        As you know from your deep dives in other areas, what is considered the “gold standard” is not always so great. As an example, I found your post about the so-called gold standard for MRIs and contrast agents a terrific wake-up call. Their gold standard not only justifies putting a highly toxic heavy metal into the human body, but insists on it in most cases, even when the actual difference in image quality is minimal.

        There are a few labs that offer saliva testing for hormones, and they are as reliable as any labs anywhere. They are the ones who use the testing methodology that David Zava developed. I have used that approach and 2 of those labs for more than 30 years now. I have not been steered wrong, yet.

  • Avatar Me says:

    In 2001 the Barnes basal metabolism test was prescribed for me by the best and only Dr that ever helped.me with my chronic fatigue. I never got my heart rate and temperature to jive correctly though, even to this day. I tried so much natural thyroid that some pharmacists wouldn’t fill it.

    Mainly he helped me by being very honest, and for introducing me to supplements that would help a person with an unknown chronic infection. I had been to other doctors. But he gave me a $5 urine test that was suppose to come back pretty colors of blue and green. Mine turned black. A clue ya think that my body was stagnant? Other doctors were clueless. (At this time the “yuppy flu” era was passing.) Every visit he would have me try something else. He was so cool. I asked him what would become of me. He answered that some people get over it and some don’t. What a refreshing doctor.

  • Avatar Laurie Rigg says:

    This is the MOST comprehensive and excellent information on Hormone replacement that I have ever seen in 25 years of researching the subject, and educating myself. Thank you for the information and grey-zone information….wink, wink, say no more….

    I have one question regarding micronized progesterone for men. Your recommend this for men in spite of information that progesterone is harmful and inflammatory for men. As with Peter Breggin’s recent article that MB is harmful (I respect this man highly, and due to his article, like you, I was concerned about using MB, until you published your excellent Substack on the subject)

    This may be the case for using micronized progesterone in men. A highly respected source has said NEVER use P4 in men. It appears, from your Substack on Hormone replacement, that there may be new information regarding men and micronized progesterone. If so, I will try it again in my .an who has great difficulty with insomnia and ED. (In spite of taking recommended doses ot testosterone, DHEA, and 100mg melatonin) (he is suffering from high chronic stream, so micronized progesterone may be helpful….given your insights, I may try him on it)

    Thank you so much. I think you are a wonderful doctor whose true intention is to help people achieve optimal health minus the wholly detested pharma industrial complex)

    Laurie

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      Hi Laurie,

      I was wrong about micronized progesterone for men. It helps us, and I have a complete article coming up within a few weeks. Stay tuned.

      • Avatar Laurie Rigg says:

        I have shared some of mine with Les, now that you have clarified. It is 200 mg compounded micronized progesterone, and he says that he is sleeping better than he ever has. We have been together for 5 years (Cvd tebel romance, grin) In 5 years this is the best sleep he has had in spite of large doses of melatonin, testosterone IM, and DHEA.

        Actually it was a relief to learn that the remarkable health benefits of progesterone also apply to men.

        Can’t wait for the article on progesterone.

        You are creating a legacy.

        Regarding your personal health concerns, i recently came across an article on treating Parkinson’s with nitous oxanide. You may have come across Dr Lee Merritt in your journey. She recommends cycling antiparasitics, and is particularly positive about this one, and Fenbendazole. Both have excellent safety records. She recommends a liver cleanse before taking Nitous oxanide.

    • Avatar Robert Yoho, MD says:

      Too complex to comment comprehensively on, but certainly, if you are on bioidentical hormones, most women can successfully have sex, enjoy it, and even have orgasms into their 70s and even 80s.

  • Avatar Swanlzs says:

    74 yo female. 4 uneventful pregnancies. Menopause was also not eventful. Never had a hot flash. My libido is great. I feel good. Do I need hormones? And are there problems with starting later in life thanks.

  • Avatar bonafidecat says:

    Unfortunately, Peptide Sciences has voluntarily closed it’s operation. Behemoth Labz doesn’t appear to carry any testosterone at all.

    Just recently now, U.S. pharmacies where I live, and perhaps elsewhere, are not selling the traditional 10ml vials of testosterone since it now has a 28-day expiration date. You are forced to buy 10 of the 1ml bottles which cost more, and are a pain in the ass. You are expected to only use each bottle once, but I doubt anyone does that.

  • Avatar bonafidecat says:

    Someone asked about testosterone boosters. Save your money. Any increase is small and transient.

    Having said that, a couple of months back I increased my red light therapy to 20-minutes a day, everyday. The RLT unit stands ~36″ tall. 8″ wide. It uses LED. I undress, sit on the couch naked, and stand the unit on end, on the couch between my legs, 4″ away. The light covers from the top of my head, to my groin/testes. I just had my 6-month blood work done. My Free T increased 47 to 77. That is massive. Before my nurse freaked out, I asked her to let me continue on my current testosterone dose, and see the numbers in 6-months. She is a Rouzier student, and agreed to let it ride. If the numbers hold, I will likely lower my dose by .05. I have been using the RLT for years, but only recently increased its usage. I must also report that I feel great, and have not experienced any of the testicular atrophy that some T users experience. Finally, there is some evidence that the RLT stimulates the leydig cells.

  • Avatar Bill Nicholson says:

    Please please write about the relationship of testosterone, dht and estradiol in the prostate and what is the happening in prostate cancer? Thank youu2026 a man with cancer

  • Avatar Texas lurkers says:

    Im 55. Ive used estriol and oral and cream progesterone, dhea vaginal suppository 6mg. Now Ive had a period within a year so Im at the edge of the big M. As I think through the way I want to go on hrt I wonder why more estriol is not used? I use dmso for penetration and I do it on my arm and vaginally (no dmso) maybe once a week. It has worked well, I know there is the other receptor that Estradiol has . Is that an absolute need or is estriol fine to keep the levels up for a slow down in all aging factors? After kicking w/ Ai we discussed dhea and mirifica purera might help hit those same receptors?

  • Avatar Thomas Alan White says:

    It does seem on some kind of level that the monks are satire. Here we are getting the most extraordinary advanced science that is testable and our experts are admitting that they cannot explain 95% of the universe and our gurus like Richard Feynman are claiming that if you think you understand quantum mechanics then you do not understand quantum mechanics, yet this is what we listen to when the monks are giving us mystery after mystery after mystery explained and it’s overwhelmingly obvious that they are correct and far more advanced than our science and therefore testable, yet even though this can save civilization we are so stupid that we’d rather have the wrong ideas. What does that say about us if you don’t stand back and laugh at the stupidity of humanity?

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